<p>The possibilities of Harvard's social life are increased tenfold by Cambridge and Boston, where there are many places to have fun.... Cambridge/Boston is the ultimate college town;everything is geared towards the students."</p>
<p>Posterx--I am very familiar with the Columbia campus and I disagree that the area is "marginal". Columbia has a really nice, albeit small campus, in an area that has improved dramatically over the past 10-15 years. While the area north of Columbia still has a ways to go, the area immediately surrounding the campus as well as south of the campus is great--lots of restaurants, places to hang out etc. And since one of your criteria appears to be "million-dollar condos", Columbia is surrounded by tons of expensive apartments for what it's worth and there's a very vibrant street life.</p>
<p>posterx, stand down!</p>
<p>DIdn't you guys know that anything that does say Yale is the best is either "outdated" or "dubious" or "non- recognised"</p>
<p>Didn't you know that people in New haven have the lowest crime rate in the world and that every other collegetown is crap in every way.... and pigs can fly in new haven...</p>
<p>Talking about stereotpyes- Posterx definately fits the Yale stereotype of a loser who couldn't get into Harvard and constantly insecure as a result... constant rival school bashings with no valid arguement and made-up-on-the-spot claims about yale's superiority. Inferiority complex to the max.</p>
<p>"It is tempting to counter doubts about Yale's status by tearing down Harvard's. But frankly, adopting a "Harvard Sucks" mantra makes us look lame more than anything else. It is easy to mistake an inferiority complex for inferiority. In an editorial entitled "Always Second Best," the Crimson applauded us for "proudly carrying the banner of inferiority all these years" [Crimson, 11/19/99]."</p>
<p>Hate to say it, but I agree. PosterX, Yale is an unbelievably great institution. Why bother being ridiculous or hyperbolic about Yale's merits when Yale has more than enough to stand on its own? It also looks mildly ridiculous to knock other schools as you do. It rather reminds me of that middle school tactic of making fun of someone else to make yourself look / feel better. Again, Yale doesn't need that.</p>
<p>Byerly, I have a problem with your quoting of the Fiske guide. You cited: </p>
<p>"The possibilities of Harvard's social life are increased tenfold by Cambridge and Boston, where there are many places to have fun.... Cambridge/Boston is the ultimate college town;everything is geared towards the students."</p>
<p>However, in the 2005 Fiske guide (which, I'll assume, isn't so drastically different from the 2006), it says "The possibilities of Harvard's social life are increased tenfold by Cambridge and Boston, where there are many places to have fun." All well and good. But later, it says " 'Cambridge/Bston is the ultimate college town,' says an English major. 'Everything is geared toward the students.' "</p>
<p>I won't deny the obvious - Boston/Cambridge is clearly a great place to be a college student. But to deliberately misrepresent a single Harvard student's quote as characterizing the view of the "Fiske Guide" seems rather unethical. Whatever PosterX may say to the contrary, Cambridge's assets can't be denied. You shouldn't need to resort to chicanery to defend an area like Cambridge (I'd think this would be more necessary with a place like New Haven!)</p>
<p>In any event, carry on.</p>
<p>Best,
DMW</p>
<p>All Ivies = some of the greatest institutions in the entire world (also the "not-Ivies-but-just-as-good-as-the-Ivies": Stanford, MIT, Duke, Amherst, etc.).</p>
<p>Yale is...Yale. Enough said.</p>
<p>I just finished reading the previous 87 posts. lol. ASP sure knows how to be....unreasonable. </p>
<p>Question to everyone: If someone is consistently bashing/making false statements about your school, wouldn't you want to prove that person wrong and defend your school? (I've been guilty of this many times. :D) And I don't mean the continuous nonsensical bashings of ASP, but...you know what I mean.</p>
<p>Back to the main topic, this is what I heard of the Ivies (no offense to anyone, just what I heard):</p>
<p>Harvard = Super grade inflation Ivy/Semi-elitist Ivy (2nd to Princeton)
Yale = Gay/Dangerous Ivy
Princeton = The Elitist Ivy
Cornell = Inferiority complex/Depressing Ivy
Brown = Extremely Liberal/Hippie Ivy
Dartmouth = Jock/Frat Ivy
Columbia = No Campus Life Ivy
UPenn = has lots of Jews/Asians (is this even a stereotype? lol)</p>
<p>Anyone care to elaborate/prove/disprove/etc?</p>
<p>Stereotype: The BUSH school...:(</p>
<p>UPenn isn't called Jewpenn for nothing</p>
<p>Let's see if the alleged inferiority complex lasts now that Yale has a reputation as the tougher school to get into based on this year's admissions stats.</p>
<p>people who go to Wharton at UPenn are really awesome...wait, nevermind, that's not really a stereotype so much as the truth</p>
<p>I don't think of Cornell as the depressing Ivy- its more of the Working Man's Ivy, or Farmer Ivy- either works. I personally kind of like this; its definitely distinct within the ivy league!</p>
<p>Wharton is great but the idea of a business school is a travesty to genuine academic pursuit, so I don't give it much credit. Because this is basically the only really stellar thing at Penn, I don't give it much credit in general. </p>
<p>But that's just me, a philosophy/classics major. Maybe you can tell I've been reading Allan Bloom...</p>
<p>(who taught at Cornell, by the way)</p>
<p>Actually, Yale has been the most selective university in the country for two of the past three years now.</p>
<p>posterX: Ok......your point? No one said that Yale wasn't selective. Everyone knows it is. This thread isn't for the glorification of Yale (or any other school for that matter). It's for Ivy stereotypes. Please stick to the topic. -_-</p>
<p>Sorry, it was just to clarify the poster above's point.</p>
<p>you don't "clarify" a point with false assertions.</p>
<p>It's not a false assertion, considering that it's true Yale had the lowest acceptance rate and the most applicants per spot.</p>
<p>Regarding Ivy stereotypes, this article has some good ones:
<a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/sioncampus/10/13/roadtrip.ivy/index.html%5B/url%5D">http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/sioncampus/10/13/roadtrip.ivy/index.html</a></p>
<p>those are, however, not very good measures of selectivity.</p>
<p>did you notice that the SI article calls new haven "sketchy"? also:</p>
<p>"DON'T PACK: Anything crimson. To say that Yale students have a slight inferiority complex when it comes to Harvard is an understatement."</p>
<p>That's the standard measure. </p>
<p>There are other measures, such as, for example, how well the students do after they graduate and how "select" the students have to be to win, say, Rhodes and Marshall Scholarships. Among this year's crop of Ivy undergrads, Yale students received 3 Rhodes Scholarships and 4 Marshall Scholarships. No other Ivy received more than 2 Marshalls or more than 1 Rhodes.</p>