JHU international student chances for a full scholarship

I am an international student from Argentina. My dream school is jhu, yet I am not sure about their financial aid, even if I am applying ED. I would need a full scholarship as there is no way else I can pay for tuition. What are my chances of getting a full-ride at JHU?

Now…how can anyone answer your question without information.

  1. Most JHU aid is need based aid, so does your family qualify for need based aid? What is your parent annual income?
  2. If you are hoping for merit aid from JHU, what are your stats GPA and SAT or ACT if taken. Merit aid is very limited and is very very highly competitive.
  3. From the JHU international student financial aid section of their website:

This means that Hopkins considers your ability to pay when considering your application for admission. While they meet full need for all accepted international students, it’s very possible that a high level of financial need could impact your actual chances of getting admitted. They don’t have a bottomless pit of money to fund international students.

I won’t mention my family income, but I can tell you that I am on a scholarship for people who want to apply abroad but cannot afford it. I did numbers and I would need a full scholarship, at most I can afford 2k a year. So I will be applying for need based, not merit based. Merit based is also welcome, but I mostly meant need based as its the only way (I think) to get a full ride scholarship.

My GPA is 9.4/10, I couldn’t sit for ACT/SAT as test centers have been closed since march and I scored 113 on TOEFL.

Also, I know they are need aware, but I would like to know if are there any international students at JHU with a full ride, as funds are limited. Btw, I am applying ED because I know funds are limited and I know I will probably be rejected in RD by asking for a full.ride.-

What does this mean? Are you getting assistance with application costs or something?

There are thousands and thousands of international students who want to study in the United States but can’t afford to pay the costs. Many of them attend colleges in their home countries because of this. Or in Europe where costs are significantly less.

You need well over $70,000 a year in need based aid to come to Hopkins. The school will compute your actual financial aid award based on the information you provide on your CSS Profile, which you need get done ASAP if you are applying ED.

You know the odds. Try and see…but I do hope you have other back up applications submitted to schools where you know you will be accepted and can pay the cost of attendance.

Why JHU?

yeah, I get financial assistance with application costs, exams, etc. Not the cost of the college year.

I have other schools, yet I cannot afford them. If I can’t afford them I’ll stay in Argetina but the situation for scientists here is tough.

JHU bc its the best school for research, it offers great programs for that, its location is great and I overall love it

You need to have other colleges on your application list. There are research opportunities at many many colleges worldwide. What sort of undergrad research do you know will be available to you as an undergrad? Why is research an important criteria for you? JHU is the “best research” for what kind of research?

Apply ED to JHU if you want to but please have your other applications ready to submit…or already submitted (no other early decision ones…look and see the rules for JHU and applying ED).

How do you know you know you love it overall?

What sort of career goal do you have?

@ucbalumnus @“aunt bea” any opinions?

Of course!! I have a list of at most 15 colleges, so I won’t just apply to one. I want to carry out research as an undergrad in the chemsitry/biology fields. JHU has many programs to begin doing that as a freshman and as it is a great college for medicine, many of its research projects have a natural-sciences-focus. That focus is other thing that I really enjoy. It also has a major that many other colleges do not: molecular biology.

Yes, there are international students at JHU with full rides. Also , a number with partial financial aid. Every student admitted to Hopkins these days gets full need met, whether American, or international. However, be aware that the schools define this need not you. You may be able to afford $x after going over numbers with your parents, but it often happens that the schools will not see it that way. Their formulas determine need, not your actual need.

Those internationals getting full need met have something in their applications that make it worthwhile for Hopkins to pay their way. They are very special in that regard because many applicants who are full pay are right there. Why should any school pay for something they get from a paying student? So you would really have to stand out among the applicants.

It’s very difficult for an undergraduate to stand out in the science fields at Hilton’s because of their superlative graduate departments where they can then cherry pick the best. UGs are just starting out and yet unproven.

So your chances are very small. Probably more do than at most schools when you are looking to be a full ride pick in Molecular Bio at Hopkins

If you want to up your chances of getting money, make sure you have schools where you are highly likely to be a superstar and worthwhile for the school letting you come for free or nearly free.

Make sure your plans for after graduation from a US college do not include plans to stay in the US. Immigration rules are very strict.US Colleges will educate you, but then you’re expected to return home.
Sorry but, if your plans were medical school, that’s not going to happen.

@“aunt bea” not sure if that statement is true about not being allowed to stay after graduation. I work in IT and I know with 100% certainty that is NOT the case for people in my field. We have A LOT, and I mean A LOT of students from India who graduate and have not left. I know there is a timeframe or they need to keep their work visa’s up but they do not leave as quickly as you are indicating.

And not sure how anyone could say NOT going to happen. Probably a higher chance of not happening perhaps???

This is direct quote from a Dr Mehta from a US New article dated in 2019, a radiologist and radiology instructor at Harvard Medical School who received his medical degree from the University of Chicago’s Pritzker School of Medicine.

“…He says international students are more likely to get into a U.S. med school if they have a bachelor’s degree from a U.S. undergraduate institution.”

I’ll let @WayOutWestMom Post the exact data, but I will say…the %age of international students accepted to medical school here is very very small and most of them come from Canada.

@EGHopeful

@eghopeful, re people in IT: students are allowed to have OPT (Optional Practical training)and lots of students from India and other places can train with an OPT. When comes down to jobs, with many CS and IT jobs, employers are required, by US immigration rules, to seek out US candidates first before attempting to sponsor non-citizens.

Many jobs also require citizenship for security clearances. If you look at the corporate web sites for these jobs, many state that they can’t sponsor non-US citizens. (My daughter and husband work in this industry. Both interview prospective candidates).

As for Medical school, I don’t know the context of what was quoted but the few international med students, in these programs, come from Canada. There are several posters here with experience in this area that can attest to this. Most med students are on loans. The costs of medical schools are running ~$300K. These are covered by the Bank of Mom and Dad and loans. Federal loans are made to students who are US citizens. There are very few scholarships for med school; everyone would qualify, and most “scholarships” would not cover the costs. @WayOutWestMom, and @mom2collegekids can give you more specific information.

  1. US medical schools do not accept undergraduate degrees earned outside the US and Canada. So to have any chance for an admission to a US medical school, international students need to attend a US or Canadian college for their baccalaureate. (There are a handful of osteopathic medical schools that will consider a foreign undergrad degree in a case by case basis. But no MD programs will consider foreign undergrad degrees.)

  2. the number international students accepted every year to all US medical school combined is tiny–last year only 124, and approximately 75-80% of those are Canadian citizens.

https://www.aamc.org/system/files/2019-11/2019_FACTS_Table_A-4.pdf

  1. there is little or no financial aid for international students who are attending a US medical school. International students are required to demonstrate they are able to pay 100% of the medical education by either producing a letter of guarantee from their home country government, or by placing a minimum of 2 years of tuition & fees in a US escrow account in a US bank. (Some schools require 4 years of the full COA to be deposited in advance.) Two years tuition & fees at a private medical school typically runs between $150,000 and $250,000.

  2. international students also have difficulty finding medical residencies even if they graduate from a US medical school. Most US medical residencies do not sponsor visas for international citizens. International students typically are limited to less competitive community programs in inner city or rural areas for residency and to less competitive specialties (like primary care. fields).