<p>Yes, but she deliberately chose to teach at Georgetown, not JHU.</p>
<p>Your point being? We are discussing the education here and she admitted JHU provided a better education. And I doubt you know her teaching choices.</p>
<p>Okay, first of all M. Albright is only one person's opinion on the two schools. </p>
<p>Second of all, how can you even debate who has the better international relations program? Georgetown is obviously the best institution for IR in the entire United States. When someone wants to get into politics, they ALWAYS consider Georgetown. JHU is not brought up nearly as often as Georgetown when speaking of institutions known for excelling in government-related programs. This only happens with JHU when one is talking about bio-medical engineering and the like.</p>
<p>John, I realize that you probably want to go to JHU or are already a student there, but your views are obviously very biased- overly so. No one can debate that JHU is a better IR school than Georgetown- there is simply NO CONTEST. In this matter, I must agree with Calidan and Thomas out of pure logic and fact.</p>
<p>Jesseo, you comments about the power of gtown are a little exaggerated. If you look at where the powerful people in politics went, yes, gtown is among them but so is hopkins. In fact both schools are part of a very small contingency that lands the highest spots. Included are of course Yale, Princeton, Harvard, Stanford, as well as UChic, Gtown and Hopkins. If you wanna go by reality instead of conjecture, Hopkins and in particular SAIS has educated a huge portion of the top people in field, including a tremendous number of the best professors, and highest ranking members of the DC community. In fact, i have seen more professionals, political scientists, consultants, politicians and officials with SAIS cited on their resume perhaps even than Gtown. I wouldnt be so quick to assume GTown is so much better than SAIS my friend</p>
<p>that's the bottom line. Johns Hopkins is a lot more well rounded than Georgetown. In science and Engineering there is really no comparison between these two schools. Both JHU and Gtown have good language departments. JHUs is a much better school for liberal arts- despite what you may read in some biased college guides, written by people who have not attended or thoroughly researched either school.</p>
<p>I think that JHU is actually pretty lopsided- its only known departments are the sciences and IR. Georgetown is similar in this respect- it is mainly known for foreign languages and foreign service. However, it still does have a respectable business school and an excellent law school.</p>
<p>Calidan, that is actually not really true. If you ask people in academia and professional settings, Hopkins is known for strong departments across the board from creative writing, to people interested in business, to politics, to biology, to psychology, to archeology to well almost anything. While the general public may not recognize JHU's other top programs, people in the respective fields absolutely do.</p>
<p>Well the exact same thing can be said for Georgetown, too. We are not talking about people in elite academia, but people in general.</p>
<p>I dont know if the same thing can be said of Georgetown, other then well, a Georgetown education will always be respected as a general rule because of the caliber of the institution. Obviously at this level, any of these schools puts the student into a small, elite part of society, and any student at these schools should be very proud of that accomplishment. I do believe however that overall, if we get down to department by department evaluations, Hopkins is stronger across the board. But again, I respect a GU diploma the same way i respect an Ivy diploma so its not that we are commenting on the level of academic prowess</p>
<p>And at that, I say we end this discussion. :)</p>
<p>Sadly I don't equate a georgetown diploma to that of an Ivy, well maybe Brown.</p>
<p>Well that's cool with me, since both Brown and Gtown are my top choice schools.</p>
<p>And I most definitely do not equate a JHU diploma with that of any Ivy.</p>
<p>To each their own as they say. PS: I dont regard brown or georgetown very highly. And you shouldn't equate a JHU diploma to that of any ivy. Its a very distinct university and is better than Brown at the least and is equivalent to Cornell.</p>
<p>Here in Japan, most people would not have heard of Johns Hopkins and would not even be able to pronounce the name. Brown and UPENN are known amongst most elites (as they are ivies), UPENN probably more known than Brown. Georgetown will be known amongst certain circles but would rank slightly lower than Brown/UPENN. Therefore, Japanese prestige rankings would be:</p>
<p>UPENN
BROWN
GEORGETOWN
JHU</p>
<p>I will stress the most important fact that most Japanese know nothing about American universities except Harvard, Yale, MIT, and Stanford. Other schools, regardless of how good, will only be known amongst the elite. And amongst those elite, the above would be the prestige ranking.</p>
<p>Of course I, too, regard all of the universities in question very highly. To an outsider, this debate probably looks ridiculous. :p</p>
<p>Take a look at the size of their faculty, the size of their student populations, and then look at their endowments. Georgetown is not in as good shape as the others. The Georgetown campus is not that well maintained because the school can't afford it. The Gtown science labs are not geared for the 21st Century...</p>
<p>Well I have actually been to the campus and I can tell you that it is pristinely maintained. Also, who the heck cares about the size of the student body? Penn State has an enormous student body, while Amherst has a small one, but that doesn't make Penn State better. Your logic is severly flawed.</p>
<p>I have been intrigued by Georgetown since the 1980's. I understand it is a personal decision, but in doing my research of these institutions, I am wondering if some of these schools are just a fad of this decade. What I mean by that is, I remember in the early 1980's, everyone in my peer group would have given up their first-born child to attend the University of Chicago. While it is still an incredible school, I don't think it has the same cache as it did in the 1980's. I am wondering how some of these schools will be viewed 10 to 15 years down the road.</p>
<p>During the 30s-40s, Hopkins was viewed as Princeton's equal. Times change ofcourse.</p>
<p>Although I don't weigh my decisions solely on the rankings, I have the U.S. News and World Report Rankings all the way back to the late 80's (that's when I started to follow them), and the highest Georgetown has ever been was 1999, when it was ranked #20. Brown used to be in the top 5-7, but I see it is now #13. However, I would still love to attend any of those institutions, regardless of what USNWR says. I would assume you can't go wrong with ANY school in the top 25.</p>