Jozhekryx's Ambitious Brother!

<p>Hello CC!
Let me introduce you my brother, who found out about CC in * elementary * school!
He is an extremely bright young man.
He took one of my QAS, (January 2008), and received a 2150! As an elementary student!
Here is his ambitious study plan.
He divided the APs accordingly, so that he can relax every year. He is really passionate about animal rights, Model United Nations, creating an online virtual school (for free), and Muay Thai.
Other than that, he is just a jocular kid with an extremely optimistic perspective.</p>

<p>He is really hyped with this image of a "Renaissance" man.
He expects college admissions to be tough, but he is up for it.</p>

<p>* 7th grade *
-Introduction to APs
-Study one SAT word per day
-Finish algebra</p>

<p>* 8th grade *
-AP Environmental Science
-AP Human Geography</p>

<p>* 9th grade *
-AP Psychology
-AP World History
-AP German
-Take SAT World, 800
-Take SAT German, 800</p>

<p>* 10th grade *
-AP Calculus AB
-AP Chemistry (will form a study group and work with a tutor)
-AP European History
-AP Comparative Government
-AP Art History
-Take SAT Chemistry, 700-800 (Retake for a 750+)</p>

<p>* 11th grade *
-AP Calculus BC
-AP Eng. Lang
-AP Biology
-AP US History
-AP US Government (US History+ Basic knowledge from APCG)
-AP Physics B (Tutor)
-Take SAT Bio, 800
-Take SAT US, 800
-Take SAT Literature, 800
-Take SAT (Maximum 3 times; hopefully a 2400)</p>

<p>* 12th grade *
-AP Spanish Language (My brother is a pentaglot)
-AP Spanish Lit
-AP French
-AP Eng Lit
-AP Physics C
-AP Physics C
-Take SAT Physics, 800
-Take SAT Math II, 800
-Take SAT French, 800
-Take SAT Spanish, 800</p>

<p>In sum:</p>

<pre><code>* Art History-5

  • Biology-5
  • Calculus (AB & BC)-5-5
  • Chemistry-5
  • Comparative Government & Politics-5
  • English Language & Composition-5
  • English Literature & Composition-5
  • Environmental Science-5
  • European History-5
  • French Language-5
  • German Language-5
  • Human Geography-5
  • Macroeconomics-5
  • Microeconomics-5
  • Physics B-5
  • Physics C: Mechanics-5
  • Physics C: Electricity and Magnetism-5
  • Psychology-5
  • Spanish Language-5
  • Spanish Literature-5
  • Statistics-5
  • U.S. History-5
  • U.S. Government & Politics-5
  • World History-5
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<p>SAT Subject Tests:
SAT Subject Test in Literature: 800
SAT Subject Test in United States History: 800
SAT Subject Test in World History: 800
SAT Subject Test in Mathematics Level 2: 800
SAT Subject Test in Biology E/M (M): 800
SAT Subject Test in Chemistry: 800
SAT Subject Test in Physics: 800
SAT Subject Test in German: 800
SAT Subject Test in Spanish: 800
SAT Subject Test in French: 800</p>

<p>Taking 20+ APs is highly impractical and a waste of time and money. Likewise, there’s no reason to take any more than 3 SAT II’s.</p>

<p>He’s a polyglot in Elementary school or is he planning to become one? I think that he should have more competitions. Have you tried the National Spelling Bee, for instance? That seems like a pretty easy competition for him to win.</p>

<p>And your question is?</p>

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Should I stop him from doing so?
Frankly, I thought 4-6 SAT subject tests are sufficient.</p>

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<p>Based on my latest analysis of standardized testing inflation rates, he’ll need at least 8.7 tests to be competitive by the time he applies.</p>

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He is a polyglot because our family moved around the world quite a few times.
He hasn’t learned Spanish yet, but he will take classes next summer. </p>

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He is a good speller, but I doubt he will make it to the finals.</p>

<p>He liked that APs and SATIIs have a generous curve.
When I showed him SAT Physics and World History, he said the curve is too generous.
Then I showed him Math I, and he realized his mistake.</p>

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I am a fan of you, silverturtle.
Your reputation is indeed a well-established one.</p>

<p>From my knowledge, so many subject tests are unnecessary. Perhaps just 3 tests would prove sufficient. I’m not too sure if so many APs will be too beneficial either.</p>

<p>If your brother is in middle school right now, perhaps he is being too optimistic. The course load he plans to have may prove more intense than he can handle. Plus, you have to consider the extracurriculars he will be participating in!</p>

<p>This is just my input.</p>

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<p>Moreover, the National Spelling Bee is a middle-school activity, which means that he would not report it for college applications. And last time I checked my priorities, that means that it’s wholly irrelevant.</p>

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<p>All of the APs will be self-studies and online courses (no stress) until junior year.
Our school does not offer APs from sophomore year.</p>

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<p>He is not a genius like Evan O’ Dorney.
Evan O’ Dorney is applying this year, with IMO Gold medal+ National Spelling Bee.
Silverturtle and other 2015ers, he is our potential competition!
[2007</a> Spelling Bee winner Evan O’Dorney wins math competition | abc7news.com](<a href=“http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/education&id=7219835]2007”>http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/education&id=7219835)</p>

<p>^ Yes, he came up in a recent thread: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/harvard-university/1020334-homeschooled-harvard.html?highlight=o’dorney[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/harvard-university/1020334-homeschooled-harvard.html?highlight=o’dorney&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Mifune reported that Evan was interested in attending Harvard, though I’m not sure where he heard that. In any case, Evan’s achievements make his acceptance to any school highly likely. One person, however, has a negligible effect on the competitiveness of the applicant pool as a whole.</p>

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Thank you for your input.
I will make sure to tell him.</p>

<p>There is a difference between “home-schooled” and “autistic”. </p>

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Yes. However, a surfeit of subjective factors are also involved. Evan is autistic.</p>

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I agree.</p>

<p>Jozhekryx,
your brother sounds like a good young man, but to be honest he is too late in the game. He needed to start AP’s earlier in order to guarantee 5’s in all AP’s offered. That is what it is going to take to get into any reputable colleges by the time he applies. Furthermore he should be both a nationally ranked scholar (debate, mock trial, etc.) AND a nationally ranked athlete throughout his child hood. It appears to me that he should have a good shot a top state schools. Also, a 2150 is just not going to cut it in Elementary school. He should be getting 2300+ by now.
Good Luck to you and your brother!</p>

<p>^I agree with dapotatoman. At this rate, he’ll be attending Community College if he’s lucky.</p>

<p>[International</a> Mathematical Olympiad](<a href=“International Mathematical Olympiad”>International Mathematical Olympiad)</p>

<p>Here are Evan’s numbers.</p>

<p>[International</a> Mathematical Olympiad](<a href=“International Mathematical Olympiad”>International Mathematical Olympiad)
This is Christian Reiher, who is studying in Germany at the moment.</p>

<p>[International</a> Mathematical Olympiad](<a href=“International Mathematical Olympiad”>International Mathematical Olympiad)
Tiankai Liu, you will know him if you read the book “The Geniuses of Math Olympiad”</p>

<p>[International</a> Mathematical Olympiad](<a href=“International Mathematical Olympiad”>International Mathematical Olympiad)
The notorious Reid Barton.</p>

<p>^
Haha, Evan O’Dorney. He gave the best interview to that CNN anchor…</p>

<p>As for your brother’s plan…</p>

<p>It’s good to think ahead, but I’m not sure that plan is realistic. It can be done, but it will be very difficult. It was hard for me to even handle AP Chem and AP Euro during tenth (Human Geography was a joke).</p>