June 2008 Literature

<p>Hmm... you guys might have a point "/</p>

<p>More questions:
For the music passage, what was the answer to the first question?
In the train passage, when was "if" used differently?
How did the narrator feel about the train (or something like that)?</p>

<p>I really can't remember very much anymore =(</p>

<p>Did you guys, for one of the EXCEPT questions, say that the author did not follow the traditional sonnet form?</p>

<p>simpleton, was that the question with blank verse as one of the answers? </p>

<p>what was the answer to the waning moon question and what it meant in the context of the poem?</p>

<p>Was that the question where the other answer was "an allusion to mythological lovers"? I said that it did not follow traditional sonnet form because I had no clue about that other option. Also, I felt that Joseph treated her in a derisive manner, so I put the reader, the narrator, and Joseph for the other question.</p>

<p>Some questions from passage 2:</p>

<p>What does the "log" refer to? (corpse, slain hero, old person)
What does "just" mean? (merely, precisely, fair and true)
What distinguishes lines 5-8? (a variety in meter, a contrast to the oaks, and something else)
What is the purpose of the last 2 lines? (they make explicit what was stated earlier)
Who could benefit from the advice offered in the poem? (teens being told to enjoy life, an old man being comforted)</p>

<p>do you guys know how many you can get wrong for a 750?</p>

<p>Just more opinions (I'm definitely not sure of all my answers):</p>

<p>Who laughs at Mrs. Ssdfhasodi? (the narrator, the reader, Joseph)
-- I said Joseph, reader, and narrator, but I was on the edge, and now I'm pretty sure that I was wrong. The only reason I had for putting Joseph was that he may have been mocking her by speaking ironically when he said "I know that you are a learned woman" and what not. </p>

<p>Which trait does Mrs. Ssdfhasodi not have? (irony/lust/aggressiveness)
-- I agree with GlueEater; how can someone have the trait of irony? I put that.</p>

<p>What is the author warning against? (vanity/green/hypocritical piety/class antagonism)
-- I agree with vanity. </p>

<p>Why is the word luckily used? (to show that the author sides with the dude)
-- Yeah, to show that the author sympathizes with Joseph.</p>

<p>What does "Oh Joseph" indicate?
-- Yeah, I said 'ardent desire.'</p>

<p>What do "resulting" and "ironing" mean? (insult and mock)
-- I said insulting and mocking, too, although I couldn't really figure out 'ironing.'</p>

<p>For the music passage, what was the answer to the first question?
-- Lol umm... was that the one that was like, which doesn't show his emotions merging with the music? If so, I said the first one; that just indicated that he was playing along. </p>

<p>In the train passage, when was "if" used differently?
-- 'If it's snowing... they'll give it snowshoes, blah blah blah.' The others were like, 'Oh, if only--!'</p>

<p>How did the narrator feel about the train (or something like that)?
-- I said 'admiring and skeptical' but not with complete assurance.</p>

<p>Did you guys, for one of the EXCEPT questions, say that the author did not follow the traditional sonnet form?
-- Although the rhyme scheme was kinda random, I took a last-minute practice test last night that classified a poem with a rhyme scheme that wasn't ABABCDCDEFEFGG as a sonnet. And I didn't see anything that could have possibly been an allusion to mythological lovers, unless it was like... reaaaaally subtle and obscure... so I chose that one.</p>

<p>What was the answer to the waning moon question and what it meant in the context of the poem?
-- I was between 'quietly suspended' and 'alternately fading and increasing,' the former because the passage used the word 'hanging' and the latter because of 'waxing and waning.' I chose the 'fading and increasing' one b/c I figured 'waxing and waning' was more important. </p>

<p>What does the "log" refer to? (corpse, slain hero, old person)
-- I said corpse. It was kinda like, 'then the oak dies and falls as an old logge,' so I was like... 'okkkk dead person?'</p>

<p>What does "just" mean? (merely, precisely, fair and true)
-- That was my only omit. I got it down to 'merely,' 'fitting and true,' and 'barely.' I eliminated 'precisely' and 'lawful and just,' but from there I had no idea. </p>

<p>What distinguishes lines 5-8? (a variety in meter, a contrast to the oaks, and something else)
-- I said all three. I think the third was 'emphasizes the brevity of the lily' or something like that?</p>

<p>What is the purpose of the last 2 lines? (they make explicit what was stated earlier)
-- I said that, too. </p>

<p>Who could benefit from the advice offered in the poem? (teens being told to enjoy life, an old man being comforted)
-- I said teens being encouraged to enjoy life; I wasn't sure but the others didn't seem to work. Actually, I guess the old man one would work, too.</p>

<p>i think the passage warns against hypocritical piety because ms. whatever acts all proper, but she is so lu****l that it is ironic and satirical.</p>

<p>I agree with you on all of those, except the following (and I may currently agree, but these are the answers I put...)</p>

<p>What was the answer to the waning moon question and what it meant in the context of the poem?
-- I chose the one about how it was inevitable that the hope would come back even after a period of relaxed hope.</p>

<p>What does the "log" refer to? (corpse, slain hero, old person)
-- I said an old person.</p>

<p>What does "just" mean? (merely, precisely, fair and true)
-- I pretty much guessed "fitting and true." I have this thing about being unable to omit answers...not good. </p>

<p>Who could benefit from the advice offered in the poem?
-- I said it was the person being comforted about someone's untimely death. The whole poem has to do with how length of life has nothing to do with how beautiful/good it is...so untimely death=comforted by the peom? I'm a little nervous to get the results for this test...</p>

<p>why can't i say lu****l? lust.</p>

<p>Some more: </p>

<p>To what does the word 'few' refer?
-- I mean, it was either 'the number of pleasures the author has' or 'the quantity of things that the author is actually able to enjoy.' I said the latter because it didn't use the word 'pleasure,' which was in the poem, so I was like 'I guess they want us to interpret...?'</p>

<p>In the same poem, what did those two lines serve to do?
-- I said 'justify her sentiments.'</p>

<p>'Lines 7-8 do what in comparison to the emotion expressed in 5-6' or whatever?
-- 'Reveal the paradoxical element of the emotion'? It was between that and showing its intensity. </p>

<p>What was the most developed metaphor in the second paragraph of the train thing?
-- Horse, I'm pretty sure. </p>

<p>What was the relationship between the first and the second para?
-- I said that he used similar strategies and tenor...? But if that is the answer, what a pointless question! </p>

<p>For the oak/lily poem, what was the thing that like... illustrated the author's point?<br>
-- I said the fact that the poem itself was 'beauty in a compact form' or whatever. That's kinda subjective, but none of the others seemed to work. </p>

<p>Which strategy was used?
-- I guessed 'epic simile' because... it was a simile... haha.</p>

<p>What did you put for what the music was to Kid Jones? (one of the choices was 'a sweeping element')
-- I don't remember... I just remember not putting that one, haha.</p>

<p>What did the rain NOT represent?
-- The piano player's presence?? </p>

<p>The sculpture one: what was emphasized in the first stanza?
-- I said his 'sexual longing' or whatever. </p>

<p>What was going on in the line about her 'demon blood'?
-- I said they had sex. Supernatural sex, mmm.</p>

<p>Why was he jealous?
-- I said I and III, but I wasn't sure at all. One said something to the effect of "she got more attention than did he" and another "other people got to see her." </p>

<p>What was 'alas...'?
-- I ended up putting B, the thing about 'ironically, he didn't retain sole possession over her.' But it could have been E, if I misunderstood the meaning and it actually meant that she achieved more fame (as a paradigm of beauty) than did he (as a sculptor.) I read it to mean that she received more fame AS A SCULPTOR than did he as a sculptor. </p>

<p>All of the following applied to the people who came to see Gflksjdfl except...
-- I said 'people who know about sculpting' but I dunno. I thought the implication was that they were there to admire her as a person, not the fact that she was beautifully sculpted by Pfdkljfdlkfj. But honestly I had no idea what happened in that passage, haha.</p>

<p>What did those lines show about why he made her?
-- I said something about him being egotistical as an artist? Or something? I dunno.</p>

<p>What did the word 'furious' mean (referring to the chisel)?
-- I said it was something about his 'intense determination' or something? I wasn't sure of that, either.</p>

<p>Ohhh, Disneyguy, your explanation for the 'who could benefit' one makes sense. I didn't catch the word 'untimely' -- you're probably right.</p>

<p>The last passage was very pretty.</p>

<p>I was worried that the poem may not have been an English sonnet and thus wouldnt have the rhyming couplet (the lack of one was my main reason for choosing that answer). Bummer.</p>

<p>Yeah, for the lily/tree poem question about what the poem could be used for, I put the same answer as Disneyguy... originally I was going to put the teenagers answer, but then I thought about the fact that the narrator was emphasizing that the shortest lives are often the sweetest and I thought that it could be used really well for comforting someone about a sudden, untimely death.</p>

<p>It was a sonnet. 14 lines, iambic pentameter, rhyming couplets....
That is what I know about sonnets (is it right, lol). I was all counting the meter on my desk trying to get all 10 stressed/unstressed.</p>

<p>Couldn't it be interpreted as "Live life to the fullest" for a teenager, though?</p>

<p>Just playing devils advocate.</p>

<p>Yeah... it could be, but in a more indirect way. In a way, it's sort of saying that you should live your life to the fullest, and make it sweet, because if you do die suddenly, you want to have been happy...
But it's much more indirect. I try not to over-analyze on Lit or I just end up getting stuff wrong.</p>

<p>It's a sonnet. Just not a Shakespearean sonnet. Its petrachean.</p>

<p>Hey, do you guys happen to remember the poem about the statue? I tried to wikipedia it, but I don't remember the name.
I'd also appreciate it if someone who got the gest of it could give a quick summary of what went down, then I can have my big "D'oh" moment.</p>