<p>shouldn't it be despite how she was a far more....? cause having a before skater in although is so awkward</p>
<p>PLEASE CAN SOMEONE ADDREss thIS</p>
<p>PLEASE ADDRESS THIS QUESTION. HOw come no one questions the placement of a before skater in the phrase "although more experienced a skater"? that is not correct by any means. therefore, it cannot be A!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>"...more experienced a skater" is grammatically a-okay. Sorry to tell you.</p>
<p>Some people think "...more experienced OF a skater." I did until fairly recentlY. Maybe that's the problem.</p>
<p>Gupsaintix, it's absolutely correct. It sounds a little weird but there's nothing wrong with it. </p>
<p>Take a chill pill. You got one wrong, so what?</p>
<p>does anyone remember a question whose correction was something like "they believed themselves to have been" ?</p>
<p>i put themselves. can anybody confirm?</p>
<p>this is old news</p>
<p>but i do agree that "through american sign language" was an error. dont bite my head off if im wrong =(</p>
<p>@ tammgiar,</p>
<p>I believe the answer to that one was something along the lines of "They believed themselves born from the blah blah blah..." Adding "to have been" makes it clunky and redundant.</p>
<p>hmm, kaznack. i don't quite remember that choice, and i have seen "to have been" used (in a similar context) in academic journals, books, etc. but i may be wrong.</p>
<p>nothing wrong with to have been i think. it was about some native americans and what they believe about their origins.</p>
<p>well i thought it was a little weird because it was possibly unclear who "they" were and if you completed the sentence with that choice, it didn't make sense with the verb usage</p>
<p>My answer to the question about the Native Americans was ", believing they were" (to have been born), where the phrase in quotation is the part of the answer. (I think that was choice C)</p>
<p>Other answers lacked commas, included "but"s, and said "believed themselves" (to have been born) or any combination of those things.</p>
<p>WMHW: what is wrong with "believed themselves" (to have been born)?</p>
<p>yeah "they to have been" didnt work so i put "themselves to have been"</p>
<p>Well "themselves" is an object pronoun while "they" is a subject pronoun (or whatever their proper names are).</p>
<p>Sometimes English has some perverted form of subjunctive where the object pronoun is correct (and is followed by an infinitive):
He asked ME to fetch the stick.
They asked THEMSELVES to fetch the stick. (Well, this doesn't make sense but it seems grammatically correct)
This is the only way in which I could see "themselves" possibly functioning.</p>
<p>The problem is that I don't think that "believe" has such a subjunctive form. "Believe" followed by an object pronoun would result in a statement like:
He told me the truth, but I didn't believe HIM.
This makes it sound like the Indians actually believed themselves, not that they believed something about themselves. Using "themselves" also leaves no subject for the "to have been born."</p>
<p>Also, I don't know if this would be appropriate, but removing "to have been" makes ", believing they were" (born) the clear choice.</p>
<p>i'm not yet convinced that "they believed themselves to have been" is grammatically incorrect. i do see it used in respectable publications/sites; for example:</p>
<p>[url=<a href="http://english.uiowa.edu/faculty/kopelson/loveslitanyintro.html%5DIntro">http://english.uiowa.edu/faculty/kopelson/loveslitanyintro.html]Intro</a> to Love's Litany: The Writing of Modern Homoerotics<a href="%22They%20believe%20themselves%20to%20have%20been" title="born that way" and to have "become that way.">/url</a></p>
<p>crap, "they believed themselves to have been" sounded best to me, but I thought it made a comma splice so I didn't pick it.....so much for 800 writing</p>