<p>As we all know, often people equate Cornell as the worst Ivy League due to high acceptance rate. We all also know that the high acceptance rate is due to Cornell's size and diverse offerings. </p>
<p>However, although this issue may have been touched on in the previous posts (sorry, I haven't been in the forum for a long time), Cornell's acceptance rate this year dropped 4% to 20%, which is substantial. </p>
<p>But feeling is that next year Cornell's acceptance rate will be below 20%. Who knows, by the time I graduate, its acceptance rate will be close to single digits! :-)</p>
<p>What do you guys think?</p>
<p>by the time you graduate, itll start to increase again i think</p>
<p>how? btw i graduate in 2010. there was an article in wsj that did an analysis as to how college acceptance rate around the country for top schools will not be going up any time soon.</p>
<p>Acceptance rate doesn't say anything about a school. I liked Cornell University a lot, and I don't know where the whole reputation of it being the worst Ivy League school comes from. If you look at USNews charts, then Brown University is rated lower than Cornell University.</p>
<p>I think it all matters on what is important to you. I like Cornell's rural campus. I also think Cornell has a lot of diversity, and is less specialized than all the other Ivy League schools, which is another plus. To me, Cornell University seems like the most well-rounded Ivy League school, and school in general.</p>
<p>You also have to consider that Ivy League schools such as Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Columbia manage to stay on the top because of their research, not always their academics. I was looking at any Ivy comparison sight, and Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, and UPenn all were rated to have a higher educational quality than the other four with Dartmouth at the top and Cornell right beneath. To me educational quality matters more than anything else, so that's another reason why I like Cornell.</p>
<p>Although, how much can stats and reviews be right?</p>
<p>There's a theory that acceptance rates will go up after a couple of years because the incoming class size will decrease after the baby boomer's kids are done; i think this is a myth however. I think the reports that the class sizes will continue to grow and thus admission rates will decrease, are more credible.</p>
<p>i actually thought you were 2011. im thinking in 2012,13,14 itll change</p>
<p>i never said cornell is not great or i wouldn't be going here. I love Cornell and I think that it's a prestigious and great institution. </p>
<p>This thread is directed more for those who think that acceptance rate is everything, and would not think otherwise...</p>
<p>yeah i actually think cornell tops quite a few institutions that rank above it (us news). the breadth of the courses offered is pretty sweet and you're likely to find more different types of people.</p>
<p>I apologize if I came off a bit pushy, but biggyboy summed it up quite nicely.</p>
<p>I think Cornell is the best... i RESEARCHED all 8... and something that I saw that appalled me was the fact that 86% of Harvard students graduated with honors... I wondered if I should deem this information dubious? Nope, it was true.</p>
<p>Let me outline Princeton, Yale, harvard, Columbia:</p>
<p>They have the most money-----> most research-------->most university accredition----->prolly most nobel prize winners or other miscellaneous titles------>leads ppl to confuse the level of education vs. the research opp.
if you want research the aformentioned are the way to go... however I attended Cornell for classes, and let me tell you that school is awesome... the teachers 1 word to describe them (affable) they are so nice it's great... I would love to go there</p>
<p>That's what I feel about Princeton, Yale, Harvard, and Columbia; they don't get their reputation from academic quality, most likely, even though it's probably better than most other schools in the country.</p>
<p>I'm pretty much set on Cornell. Now, it's time to finish up this year, my junior year, with a bang and start the ED stuff.</p>
<p>"There's a theory that acceptance rates will go up after a couple of years because the incoming class size will decrease after the baby boomer's kids are done; i think this is a myth however. I think the reports that the class sizes will continue to grow and thus admission rates will decrease, are more credible."</p>
<p>Why do you think that is more credible? Just wondering because the first thing that I heard was the former theory, and I'm pretty sure that the number of graduating high school seniors is supposed to peak in 2008.</p>
<p>Yup...I've heard peak in 2008--and "peak" means a decrease comes after the top of the hump. Chyeah.
I'm not quite sure what the source is for the 2nd theory...the only reasoning behind it would be that increases in highschool-->college kids population, which are constantly occuring, are larger than increases in general population due to babybooms. thus # applications would continue to increase..perhapse at a slightly slower rate than now.</p>
<p>I don't know about the true numbers here, so I can't say much. But I think the most reasonable way to think of it is as follows: Competition will peak in 2008 and will decrease slightly afterwards. However, I think that what has happened in terms of the # students entering college and in terms of cultural changes that have occured in the past decade, college admissions will never be the same as they used to be when our parents applied.</p>
<p>Ivy applicants will continue to crest higher as the schools make more inroads in West and South and competition intensifies. Class sizes are likely to stay nearly the same (Princeton is enlarging a bit, but most everyone else is steady.) With no more EA at Harvard or Princeton, all other Ivies will receive more applications. All the pretensions of so-called "near-Ivies" and "public Ivies" still does not do anything except underscore the power of the brand. </p>
<p>And, although I have posted this before, I went to Cornell and then to Harvard and Columbia. I enjoyed the real diversity, the true college feel that only a fine university in a small city can provide, the broad Division I sports program and the competitive teams, and the quality of students and faculty taking and offering a combination of courses found only in Ithaca. I think, quite simply, that Cornell is the finest university in America.</p>
<p>^Well it's just my view, but the thing is that the number of graduating high school seniors may not peak in 2008. That class may be slightly bigger than the one's immediately before and after it, but it's not supposed to go significantly down (i.e. it might never be as low as it was a couple years ago). By like 2011ish it may fall to the level of last year or something. And by that time, the decrease as a result of the baby boomer 2-gen ending will be over and it'll start going up again and will certainly pass the 2008 peak. Families having more than two kids + more immigrants + more international students = exponentially rising college-seeking population = decreasing admissions rates. </p>
<p>If you don't want to read all that just look at this graph from collegeboard (look at the top line...doesn't really go down. Although, this doesn't even take into account the increasing number of international applicants taking spots.
<a href="http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3339/hel03pl3.gif%5B/url%5D">http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3339/hel03pl3.gif</a></p>
<p>O well, good thing we're already in college.</p>
