Kelley vs. Ross

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<ol>
<li>I was accepted into uiuc which is the same price as IU with my scholarship. </li>
<li>Yes
3.0. We don’t qualify for any financial aid due to my college fund</li>
<li>They aren’t saving at all anymore due to my college fund. </li>
<li>I will be covering college myself without any loans</li>
<li>Ibanking doesn’t have to be on Wall Street but I don’t plan on getting involved with that field</li>
<li>Yes </li>
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<p>And with the price of the school if you read ahead in the thread you would have seen that money really isn’t a concern for my family. It’s more of a personal concern because having 70,000 extra out of college sounds kinda nice. </p>

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<p>Based on the information so far, I would lean towards Kelley.

  1. I believe OP is waiting to be admitted to Michigan. Let us assume a high probability of admission (~ 90%) to Michigan.
  2. Based on Ross’ 2013 regular admission results, out of 1171 UG applicants at U of M, 435 were admitted; Assume OP’s probability of admissions to Ross for 2014 is similar to 2013 (~ 37%) (<a href=“Bachelor of Business Administration | Michigan Ross”>http://www.bus.umich.edu/admissions/UndergraduatePrograms/PDF/BBA_Viewbook_lo.pdf&lt;/a&gt;, page 11)
  3. For OP, the overall probability of admission to Ross, as of now, is .9X.37 = .33 (1 in 3). Kelley is a done deal.
  4. Assume that Investment Bank recruitment at Ross is 10%, and at Kelley is 5 % (need to be verified), the overall probability of being admitted to Ross AND being recruited by IBank is still significantly smaller than at Kelley.
  5. The business employers’ survey, according to Business Week, rank Kelley #1, Michigan at #14.
    . Overall Michigan UG business is ranked #8, Kelley at #13.
    <a href=“Bloomberg - Are you a robot?”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?;
  6. Salary earned per tuition Dollar spent is higher for Kelley, $6.29 versus $4.98 for Ross. (<a href=“Bloomberg - Are you a robot?”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?)
  7. With a few years’ real world business experience, and with high test scores + other inputs, one should be able to gain admission to top rated MBA schools with an UG from either Ross or Kelley. The probability of getting into IBanking may be higher with an MBA in finance from a top ranked B School than from an UG from Ross or Kelley. </p>

<p>All of the above are based on the assumption that OP is strongly committed to Business major in UG. </p>

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<p>I have already gotten accepted into Michigan just not Ross. </p>

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<p>Not to be rude since I am asking for help but the numbers you are throwing out makes no sense. The accpetance rate is dictated by what I am about to achieve. Not the fact that they have a 37%. The investment banking field is highly competive and getting into a top form depends in the undergrad which I feel michigan gives me the better chance. The only real good piece of info is the salary per dollar of tution. However is that for the business school as a whole or finance?</p>

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<p>Unless admissions to Ross is assured, which it is not, then one can plan based on historic data; 37% of applicants from U of M were admitted to Ross in 2013. “The acceptance rate is dictated by what I am about to achieve” - This is what all other applicants to Ross are trying to achieve. Does OP have a strategy that would make him/her stand out, and ensure 100% acceptance to Ross?
What is the plan B in case OP does not get admitted to Ross?
If Kelley were that far behind than Michigan in imparting knowledge, then how come it is employers’ first choice of recruitment for business majors?
Can’t say if the salary per Dollar spent is for the business school or for finance; my guess is that it is an aggregate value.
This would be a different discussion had OP been admitted to Ross. </p>

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<p>They do have very good recruiting but for an MBA I would need to go to a top tier ibanking firm which none of them have any presence in Kelley. Ross and Michigan as a whole has that connection</p>

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<p>Where IB is concerned, if one cannot get into Ross once at Michigan, one isn’t “IB material”. It is as simple as that. Between Kelley and Michigan (Ross preadmit or not), the choice is obvious for those seeking jobs in IB or Consulting. One is a major target, the other isn’t. </p>

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<p>So Michigan is the much better choice?</p>

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<p>You’re number 4 is wayyyyy off. If you go to Ross and have a good GPA you are almost guaranteed to get a job in ibanking somewhere if you want it. If you go to Kelly you’ll have to get into their special ibanking program (very competitive) and then still wouldn’t have access to the top firms Ross does. Top Kelly students work in the same places as lower level Ross kids. Go to Michigan and work hard freshman year. Getting into Ross isn’t just a crapshoot 40% chance, if you work hard enough you’ll get it.</p>

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<p>Listen to Alexandre and maizandblu21; If you want IB, you need to try to get into Ross. </p>

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<p>Well back some of my questions, can I retake calc 1 and some other AP classes I took to ensure a high GPA?</p>

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<p>Math placement tests will place you where you belong and have the best aptitude for success: </p>

<p><a href=“UM Math Placement Testing FAQ”>http://prep.math.lsa.umich.edu/placement/faq.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>As for retaking the AP classes- I am unsure that you want to show Ross that you simply repeated already presented material for safety. If you are taking AP classes and exams for AP credit, I am unsure how that would work.</p>

<p>You can contact LSA and ask - but your counselor will probably be a big help in making the path for Ross. :slight_smile: </p>

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<p>Well my family knows one of the guidance conselor for Engineering and I will be visiting her this weekend so she will most likely be able to answer these questions and will post the answers for future applicants</p>

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<p>Retaking Calculus is unwise. At Michigan, Calculus is very competitive. I would not risk it. Take easier classes and get that 3.8+ GPA.</p>

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<p>like?</p>

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<p>To each his own. Rely on yourself, not on us. You know better than anyone what subjects you are good at. Also ask your advisor at Michigan. She/he will also give you some good advice. Finally, ask some current Ross students. But above all, rely on your own instincts.</p>

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<p>Alright, Thanks for the advice everyone.</p>

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<p>“People love to throw around “i banking” statistics without regard for the varying degrees of prestige within those “i banking” jobs. Kelley and even Ross students aren’t recruited for the same positions as Harvard and Wharton students.”</p>

<p>No kidding? The thing is, this wasn’t a discussion about Harvard or Wharton. If it were, then the answers would be different. In the meantime for IB, Ross is clearly stronger than Kelley.</p>

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<p>To be fair, some ross students do get recruited by firms that recruit out of Wharton and Harvard but it is those at the top of their class and @soccergirl3 This thread is dicussing Kelley vs Ross and I have been accepted into both.</p>

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<p><a href=“Which MBA Format is Right for Me? | Michigan Ross”>Which MBA Format is Right for Me? | Michigan Ross;
Several big banking firms are recruiting out of Ross and it is much more than 1%</p>