<p>All you've done Zipper is go off in another topic about how you're so much better than us and have all these awards, as though that makes you better than us. Let you haven't said anything valid about why your system is so good.</p>
<p>Dear, davnasca, I would like a truce; this is only an internet argument. </p>
<p>Reasons my idea is great:</p>
<ol>
<li>Kids develop a love for learning. </li>
<li>No over justification. Kids learn because they want to. </li>
<li>Lots of parent involvement. For those who have no parents, they will get a personal tutor. </li>
<li>Kids have to do research and papers. </li>
<li>Kids have to have discussions with a professor and other students. </li>
<li>Very interactive computer. No one is board or left behind. The kids also have text books, tutors, and other material if they need help. </li>
<li>A society based around learning, not materialism. </li>
<li>Waste less time in school. Current school is a big waste of time. </li>
<li>Learn the facts, by yourself, and discuss the facts and your opinion with others. </li>
<li>Study whatever subject interest you. </li>
<li>Very open to accommodation. If you cannot learn on the computer, then schools will be available. </li>
<li>Everyone can get a great education. </li>
<li>Everyone will be assigned a educational computer--you can touch the screen and stuff. </li>
<li>Free education. The government will pay for everything. </li>
</ol>
<p>The government will have a monopoly on the financial system. Basic, necessary goods will be created by all people, and people will exchange from manual labor to intellectual activity. Yes, their will be independent companies, but basic goods will be community produced. Also, their will be respectful and kind labor laws, encouraging that all people--even adults--to engage in intellectual activity. </p>
<p>Thank you for your interest!</p>
<p>What do you think about my system?</p>
<p>Truce?</p>
<p>Just out of curiosity...where exactly are you going to put your communist plan into action? It'll <em>never</em> fly in the USA, that's for sure.</p>
<p>Edit: My friend wanted you to read this: SparkNotes:</a> Some Thoughts Concerning Education</p>
<p>^^^^ Thank you very much for the link. I will read it. </p>
<p>I plan to implement my system in Asia or the Middle East. Your very right, my plan will not work in Western, Capitalistic cultures. </p>
<p>But do you like it?</p>
<p>Once again, sorry for anything I said that insulted you.</p>
<p>Here is an itemized list of my ripostes:</p>
<p>1) I and many of my peers already have a love for learning.
2) No mandatory education? In a society where all will be provided, where is the incentive for the non natural learners to put in the required effort?
3) It should be the kids "love for learning" that pushes them not parents. Helicopter parents= Bad!
4) Kids already have to do research and papers.
5) " " " discussions
6) No amount of computer interaction can replace a chemistry lab or music class.
7) I agree we need less materialism and more emphasis on education, however, I do not feel your methods are the best way to achieve that.
8) Create tracked schools. Eliminate NCLB and "teaching to the test". College will not be boring though, so keep that as is (well, except tuition...)
9) You can learn the facts independently already. People with the initiative to self study already do.<br>
10) Tracked. Education.
11) Ok, now you are describing what we have now. You can take online courses (ie EPGY/ home school or go to a school. Its just that currently the latter is seen as a better option, thus more receive their education the "normal" way in a classroom.
12) Equal OPPORTUNITY in education is something we do need, and perhaps an online system could remedy. Notice I said opportunity, not simply equal education. People are different and should get different educations based on skills, but should all have the same opportunity to go to the "best" schools.
For example, we are all born with an equal chance to go to Harvard, but only few are smart enough to make it.
13) I didn't want to say this but, with what money?
14) See above.</p>
<p>In conclusion, we have many of the same goals in our wish for educational reform. Namely, we believe in more individualized education. However, I feel that the best place to learn is in a traditional class room setting. Obviously you feel otherwise. </p>
<p>Lastly, I have one more very important question- if the government is paying education, do they decide curriculum? Would freedom to teach controversial things and new ideas remain? Or would half the courses be entitled "Zipper, Einstein and Chomsky: Two Great Jews and Our Benevolent Despot" or "Zipper Zipper he's the man, if he can't ruin it- no one can!"</p>
<p>The professors will design the material. </p>
<p>Yes, my educational system is not too radical; its rather conventional, actually. No competition regarding learning is what it basically is. My entire system is not too radical, either. </p>
<p>But oh so great! </p>
<p>I just can't wait! Baby oh Baby! Oh the revolutions!</p>
<p>Thanks for your critical and thoughtful comments. They help me think of a better system!</p>
<p>Any more ideas?</p>
<p>I'd like to see you pull it off in any Asian or Middle Eastern country. If you could get citizenship, and many of those nations aren't exactly immigration friendly, you would still need to be elected. That is incredibly unlikely. If you somehow do, you still would never gain enough support to implement it.</p>
<p>Asians are even more competative than Americans when it comes to education. Everything is about ranking. If you want to be someone, you go to the best school. Every major test you take, your scores are posted for everyone to see. If you try to be different, say, change your hair color or something, you get in trouble with teachers. Anyone different gets shuned and foreigners are welcome to visit, but you can't live there or you won't fit in.</p>
<p>Nickel Xenon, </p>
<p>I am Asian. I lived in India. </p>
<p>To me, you are wrong.</p>
<p>If you have to say something...you can say it without calling someone stupid. You can say the same thing without resorting to verbal abuse. People will take you more seriously if you aren't using attacks to make yourself seem more important.</p>
<p>I wasn't taking to India. You mentioned Middle East, so I assumed that inclulded India and Asian was more the Eastern countries. Like Japan, Korean, China, etc.</p>
<p>^^^^^^^ gprime made fun of me first. I offered truce, and said sorry. And he said I "won't be able to make it."</p>
<p>He hasn't said anything offensive in his last post.</p>
<p>Those Asian countries arn't all that competitive. You know, Daoism and Confucism teach not to be competitive. Asians are just competitive because they want a good job--don't want to starve. If they know they'll not starve w/out being the best, they won't be so competitive, I think.</p>
<p>Nickel Xenon, </p>
<p>gprime said "you still would never gain enough support to implement it."</p>
<p>Are you kidding me? Every serious Japanese nerd can't stop talking about Todai. Every single anime or drama that has a school theme to it, the school is mentioned at least once. For someone that goes to cram school all the time and worked so hard in high school, not getting into Todai is life's biggest disappointment. If asians aren't so competative, why do so many school kids commit suicide? Why do kids stop going to school and lock themselves in their room? Asians aren't interested in just living, they want the prestige just as badly as any other American.</p>
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<p>And those things he said weren't offensive at all.</p>
<p>^^^ Look, chap, before US imperialism of Japan after WW2. Before the US destroyed Japanese culture, it was not so competitive. It was very nationalistic, but their was not much competition between individuals.</p>
<p>I would return the Asian Countries to their original cultures. </p>
<p>Also, gprime sent me a bunch of offensive e-mails, and yes, his post was rather offensive. How does he know I can't get citizenship and make it? He also called me a Nazi and said that Palestine did not exist before WW2.</p>
<p>But the fact is, Japan is competative now. Even more so than American schools and I doubt you can change that. It's become a part of their culture now. What if they don't want to return to the old way? What if they like being competative?</p>
<p>^^^ Then I won't take over Japan. I will only lead countries that want me.</p>