Ladies, what gives you the hint???

[zeppelinpage4]

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Nothing. You are stuck in the friend zone forever. There’s only 2 choices in those situations.</p>

<p>-Tell her and risk losing the friendship</p>

<p>-don’t tell her and painfully watch her being taken by another guy and listen to her sex stories about him.</p>

<p>Your choice dude. </p>

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<p>Sadly this might be the truth. I was in your place and I opted with option two by not saying anything early on. I saw a lot of guy friends in a similar position go for the first choice by coming out and saying it.
When they poured their feelings out it really made things worse and friendship wasn’t even quite possible. When they simply mentioned it and forgot about the drama with out looking back they were friends again but I can’t say it was the same. </p>

<p>Almost looks like a lose/lose situation but that doesn’t mean you should give up hope. It’s a good feeling to have and even if it’s temporary you’ll come away from it a little more experienced. </p>

<p>Best of luck and I hope things work out, she’d be lucky to have someone that cares like you do. You never know, there is a RARE possibility that it could work out well and she’ll be open to forming a relationship. However be prepared for a rejection and don’t get too dramatic right away. </p>

<p>-just my two cents</p>

[Muscle7]

<p>this won’t end well for OP. He’s obsessed, probably a virgin, and doesn’t have an attractive masculine personality judging by his posts in this thread.</p>

[nYc91]

<p>hahahahahahahahaha</p>

[Batllo]

<p>scotchlite5- Let’s step back and re evaluate…
Do you know for certain she has no boyfriend? At home? At school?
You got a backup plan if she give you the brushoff?
Bring down the intensity-we can feel it from here, dude!</p>

[AbbyP]

<p>Muscle7, you are a major trip. “Attractive masculine personality”??? </p>

<p>Anyway, I’m thinking OP should go for it. Even if you get rejected, then at least you put yourself out there. How many chances are you going to have?</p>

[1253729]

<p>OP, as a guy, I say go for it. It’s a lose/lose (the friend zone/her saying no) for you. Besides, you did say she was flirting with you. Try to make sure she doesn’t have a bf at home/etc… Then, yeah, go for it. But, instead of just confessing your deepest secrets, if you will, maybe you should ask her out to dinner or something. Approach it however you feel most comfortable, but, remember that she might say no. So prepare yourself.</p>

<p>There’s a song that goes “That first step you take is the longest stride…If today was your last day and tomorrow was too late…Would you live each moment like your last?” It’s If Today was Your Last Day by Nickelback. But anyways, back to your question, what would you do if today was your last day?</p>

[blu_g8orade]

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I personally flatly refuse to indulge in the ladies man type, so this can go either way and must be done tactfully. I’m not saying it’s not okay to have lady friends, but if a man has hoards of ladies all over him then I am not going to bother. Creating false competition is not in your favor, there are better ways to avoid appearing desperate that do not risk making the women of interest feel insecure. And personally, I know that I do not HAVE to compete unless I want to. So unless I am VERY interested in the man in question, I would not be interested in competing when I can just go find someone better who is more available. So if the idea is to create interest, that would surely backfire so far as I am concerned.</p>

<p>ETA</p>

<p>“on top of that, if the OP has other girls who are drawn to his company, the first girl is more likely to start seeing him as bf material as well. a girl wouldn’t want something that no other girl would want.”</p>

<p>No, I see him as potential man-whore material. No thank you. What makes me see potential boyfriend material is kindness, consideration, and maturity. Perhaps if I were in high school and just looking for a confidence boost I’d give a crap about what other ladies think, but that’s pretty childish and shallow.</p>

<p>A sidenote, no other girls seem to want my boyfriend and I love it that way. They judged a book by his cover and missed out on a fantastic man. Sucks to be them. I couldn’t be happier with their mistake.</p>

<p>"it’s not ‘playing games’… it’s called making yourself attractive, having other options, and not being obsessed with one girl. "</p>

<p>There is a difference between making a girl feel desired and stalking her. You are going too far to one extreme to avoid the other. It may have worked for you, but I must admit from your posts I must wonder about your age and the maturity of your relationships.

i never said OP should become a “ladies man”… i simply said he should start interacting with other girls. you tell me which is better for his mental health in the long run… having multiple potential female companions, or obsessing over one girl who may or may not like him.</p>

<p>besides, why doe a guy with many female friends have to be a player? maybe he’s just an overall fun guy to be around and has a nice personality. you say that people judged your bf by his outside appearance… well isn’t it just as judgmental to stereotype a guy as a “man-whore” just because he is attractive to women? </p>

<p>why do you back off when you see that a guy you like has other options? are you worried that he might see you as inadequate and leave you for someone ‘better’? sounds like you might have some insecurity issues, at the least.</p>

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I don’t know, blu, my boyfriend had previously had a crush on another girl before me. When he told her he liked her, she flat out rejected him and he said it was the most relieving thing to not have to wonder how she would react. Heartbreaking, but you get over it and move on.</p>

<p>I don’t understand why people think of someone has an attraction to their friend, and said friend does not return feelings, the relationship is ruined! If two people who were married and got a divorce can be good friends, why the hell can’t two people get over a crush? That’s just immature.</p>

<p>By the way, what’s up with some guys talking about the psychology of women? “If you talk to other girls she’ll see you’re not desperate and begin thinking ‘ohmaigawd he’s so hot’ blah blah blah” whatever crap guys insist on saying. Not all females are the same, and unless a girl told you that’s exactly what she thought about your technique to attract her, I’m not sure why you’re claiming what her thought process was. There’s no overarching female psychology. Just say something instead of wasting your time trying to figure out what roundabout courting ritual will attract her. If the girl is a good friend, even if she rejects you, it will be fine as long as no one’s petty about it.

i never said i had a surefire way to attract every single girl in the world. i’m trying to offer the OP suggestions that will help him with most women he’ll encounter in life, not the one or two posting on CC.</p>

[blu_g8orade]

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um muscle7, or whatever ur name is…
this girl is muslim, and so am i. and in our culture and religion we dont do that kind of stuff.
were not suppost to be dating girl after girl, we look for special ones, ones that can eventually be ur wife. we dnt really date at all. she’s not that type of girl…trust me.
and relaxxx dude, its just a thread…i go to the gym everyday, i started both ways on my high school football team, i was the fastest kid on my track team…and my name isint muscle 6…so relaxx

well thats a pretty important detail… you could have mentioned that at the beginning of the post.</p>

<p>so you’re trying to marry this girl or what?</p>

[scotchlite5]

<p>ok this thread is getting out of hand…and i cant even delete it!!!</p>

[WCF]

<p>Anyway, scotch. I think what others were saying were right. Your situation looks bad, but it can’t hurt to give it a shot. You sit there and don’t do anything, you’ll just wonder about what could have been. Good luck to you</p>

[wxmann]

<p>To the original question: YouTube the phrase “Nice Guy”. Nice 3 part series about how to get the girl. If you want to skip the drama, the gist is, if the girl feels that you care about her and that she is special to you, she will respond. What constitutes “caring” is open to interpretation, but of course that’s why you try to get to know the girl first. Wit and entertainment don’t hurt either, from personal experience.</p>