Laptop Options

<p>So essentially I have 3 options. </p>

<li> Get the apple macbook pro from dmouth </li>
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<p>Pro: -I’m not sure… I’m a windows guy.
-Rumor has it most dmouthians use macs? </p>

<p>Con: It’s an apple and I have never owned a mac before. </p>

<li>Get a dell latitude from dmouth</li>
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<p>Pro: It’s windows and I’m use to it. </p>

<p>Con: Its a dell, apparently they’ve got a really bad rep? </p>

<li>Buy my own laptop, most likely a sony or something. </li>
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<p>Pro: -My choice of computer
-Indiviuduality?</p>

<p>Con: -No dmouth insurance/warranty
-Possible software mismatch with dmouth applications? </p>

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<p>I require a reliable laptop, fast processor, great video card (for all the movies), and preferably nothing too heavy. </p>

<p>Money isn’t too much of an issure. </p>

<p>Could current dmouth students please give some insight?</p>

<p>In our house we are total PC users. D ordered a mac through the school because it was small and lightweight and never looked back. Said she would never use windows again (the other side of the coin is my sister purchased a new mac book pro recently, hated it, felt she could not get the hang of windows and returned it). </p>

<p>The great thing about purchasing through dartmouth is that you pick it up move in day, you plug it in and you are ready to go (blitz and everything is set up, the most you have to do if you havce a printer is install it and you are set).</p>

<p>I know that some people will say it is a rip off and you can get your computer cheaper on the outside. I don't have a problem paying more if I know that if there is a problem that it would be taken care of with out much hassle. I knew my kid is not tech savvy and really did not want to deal with any problems should they occur, she took ti to tech support, got a loaner and kept things moving.</p>

<p>We did purchase a computer through Dartmouth. Over the break she had a problem with her hard drive, we took it to the genius bar in soho and they wanted to charge her $700 to fix the problem (said it could be attributed to accidental damage). Since her warranty expires this year I told her to wait until she got back to campus and take it to tech support (my logic was you're a student and they are not going to let you go long without having a working computer). I told her that if they still were going to charge her $700 just purchase a new one, but they fixed her computer (replaced her hard drive) for $0. She told me she has friends who purchased on campus, have dropped their computers (this would usually make the warranty invalid) took it to tech support on campus and they fixed it.</p>

<p>my son has a macbook pro that he bought through dartmouth. there was an issue with the battery last week, so he took it in, had it checked, and it was replaced for free. right there, on campus, no problem. he didn't have to wait on the phone for any tech support company, he didn't have to mail anything anywhere, and didn't have to be without his computer for a minute!</p>

<p>I have a macbook pro (i'm an '11) and I love it. If you ARE concerned about the transition to OS X from windows (which, once you get a chance to play around with it, you won't be) You put windows (XP, Vista, whatever) on the computer and either start up with a choice (using bootcamp) or run both operating systems at the same time using parallels.</p>

<p>I have the 15" 2.33ghz, 2mb ram model. It's absolutely blazing fast, plus, the screen makes watching movies a delight. I've never had an reliability issues</p>

<p>I bought an IBM ThinkPad a month ago before I got accepted to Dartmouth. Is it possible to continue using my IBM while I am at Dartmouth or am I going to have go out and buy another computer? I think my parents will get extremely annoyed if they have to buy another computer</p>

<p>here is the link to supported hardware and software.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/comp/about/policies/software/supported.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dartmouth.edu/comp/about/policies/software/supported.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I have an IBM ThinkPad. It works very well. I have had zero compatability issues so far. And it wasn't dificult or time-consuming to load it up with everything it needed.</p>

<p>that makes me feel better</p>

<p>Does dmouth offer various models of macbook and latitude? </p>

<p>I can load windows onto the mac? Hmm didn't know that.</p>

<p>yeah, on the new intel-based macs (which use the same processor as many of the new pcs) windows is an option. I don't actually have it (yet?) but I have parallels, so I could run it in a jiffy</p>

<p>I recently bought a Dell Inspiron before I decided on Dartmouth. The Inspiron line is not on the Dartmouth Supported list. Does this mean that I can't use it at Dartmouth or that if a problem arises Dartmouth can't help me fix it?</p>

<p>Dude, go Mac all the way... You will never look back...</p>

<p>you can use any kind of computer at Dartmouth. If you have one you like, there is no need to buy a new one. this just means that you can't get free help from College Computing Sales and Services.</p>

<p>and how often would a typical student need help from Comp Services? </p>

<p>I'd say I'm very knowledgable with windows and whatnot, but is the likelyhood high of something breaking down?</p>

<p>If you have your own laptop already, bring it (as long as it is compatible), but if not, seriously consider the speed, convenience and low to non-existent cost of on-campus tech support for computers purchased from Dartmouth.</p>

<p>The warranty is good for 3 years - with the heavy use that students give their laptops, you probably have AT LEAST a 50% chance of needing otherwise costly (in terms of $ and downtime) service within that time.</p>

<p>SOME ADDITIONAL ADVICE - Bring an external hard drive with you and get in the regular habit of backing up your work, or at least, if you are in the middle of a major project, regularly copy it to a cd or email it to yourself or some other address from which you can easily retrieve at least a fairly recent version if (when??) your hard drive fails. Many many have learned this lesson the hard way.</p>

<p>According to IT Services last year, Dartmouth is split nearly 50-50 for Mac and PC, so there's no school preference. However, there maybe some departmental preferences, which only matters if you need help on some specialized departmental sw.</p>

<p>We priced both mac and pc last year and found the Dartmouth packages financially better -- no sales tax in New Hampshire, and no delivery costs. When comparing prices, however, its important to remember that the Dartmouth packages include 3 year ** on-site** service warranties, which is a costly upgrade to equipment bought direct.</p>

<p>Sonny: Most Dells work alike, so obtaining tech support for an inspiron on campus should not be an issue, but you may have to pay for it.</p>

<p>ssnair: you can use any pc you like. When you get to campus, IT will provide you with the sw needed to access their network.</p>

<p>One other reason to buy from D: really cool desktop preloaded!</p>

<p>I didn't buy my computer through Dartmouth, and I think in certain situations it is a better idea to do this than to buy through the school. For one thing, it costs a lot more for computers with, in my opinion, weaker specs than what you can buy directly from Dell or Sony or others. I remember when I was considering my purchase back in the summer of '04 before my freshman year, I found the deals Dartmouth was offering to be unimpressive. I ended up buying a top of the line Inspiron 9 series for several hundred dollars less than what they were charging for Latitudes.</p>

<p>The nice thing about the computers that Dartmouth offers is that they are designed to be portable and really take advantage of our wireless network. My computer is literally a behemoth - at 10 pounds and 1.5 hours of battery juice (back when it was new, less now) I can't really take it around campus with me too much, whereas people that get theirs through the college can just put it on standby, toss it in their backpack, and then check blitz or do work literally anywhere on campus. On the other hand, if you are looking for a computer that is "powerful" then, depending on what specifically you want your "powerful" computer to do you probably won't want to buy through the college.</p>

<p>As for the quality and tech support - it's really a mixed bag. Yeah, the Dells are pieces of crap but Macs sometimes aren't much better. I have two friends with Macs who had their hard drives crash on them. One these people actually had his hard drive crash again after he got it back from Computing Services, and he's a '09 so he only had his comp for a little more than a year when it happened. Factoring in the wait for the required part to come in from Apple and the backlog of other computers they needed to service, he was without a laptop for a total of about 3 weeks. It's not the end of the world - there are a ton of computers in the library and around campus where you can get work done, but it was a serious inconvenience at the very least. So don't assume that if you get a Mac that it will be indestructible - Macs break down, too.</p>

<p>I do have to say that Dartmouth's computing services are very good at getting your computer fixed. Definitely in one of the above instances, and I think in the other as well, not only did the computers get fixed by they were able to recover all of the information that had been on the hard drive, which is obviously a big deal considering how much schoolwork, not mentioning personal pictures and things were on them. And let me dispel the notion that if you don't buy your computer through Dartmouth they won't help you. I've had a couple of (fairly minor) problems with my computer and, though it was obviously a model that I couldn't have bought through the college nobody at the computing desk had any problem with helping me fix it when I took it there. I'm not sure what the policy officially says, but I suspect that they say that more to scare you into purchasing one of their models more than anything. I mean, the bottom line is that no one who works at the computing desk is going to be a big enough dick to turn you away if you come to them with a problem because everyone who works there, both students and professional staff, understand that you will be pretty screwed if you don't have your computer for an extended period of time.</p>

<p>As for compatibility issues, I had none. I mean, these programs aren't written for HAL 9000 or something. Basically every program is available for Windows and Mac, and it doesn't actually matter what model you get - it's not like a Dell Inspiron or a Sony Viao (sp?) run some crazy, super secret version of Windows that won't run any of these programs. They are written for Windows XP. Windows XP is obviously going to be the same Windows XP no matter what brand and model computer you get. Furthermore, all of the Dartmouth software worked just fine on my computer and computing services has a sheet available for those that bring their own laptops with a list of programs that you should install and the Dartmouth URL where you can get all of them (and the pages that have the downloads also have instructions on how to set them up). If you really are computer illiterate then maybe you'd be better off with getting the preloaded computers and not worrying about it, but if you are decent with computers (as I imagine most high school kids in America are at this point) it really won't be much of an issue to get everything you need on there.</p>

<p>Bottom line, it really isn't the big deal it's sometimes made out to be to bring your own computer that you didn't order through Dartmouth. I honestly recommend doing this because you will most likely get a better deal buying it directly, regardless of whether you want a more portable or a more powerful model.</p>

<p>Thank you for the great post.</p>

<p>I was considering buying from Dartmouth...but not anymore =]</p>

<p>lol i was considering not buying from dartmouth but now i am :-p</p>

<p>Last year when the '10's blog went up, most students found that the costs were the similar, whether buying from D or from a local store/retailer/online. If you do buy locally, make sure you purchase XP Pro, since its easier for IT so trouble-shoot problems or Dell online for that matter. However, you might hold off until later this summer to see if Dartmouth is purchasing Vista for the 11's.</p>