late orientation--disadvantages?

<p>to any current umich students or anyone who knows:</p>

<p>i signed up for the august 2 orientation and am worried that i put myself at a big disadvantage. will i get stuck with bad classes (ex. morning classes, bad professors, etc)? or is there really no difference...</p>

<p>You are at a disavantage because usually in these flagship universities, honor students have priority, then seniors, juniors, sophomores and freshman. My D is not going to Umich, but she is going to another large university and was invited to pick her classes in early April. As of 2 weeks ago, some classes already had waiting lists, and regular freshmen have not yet enrolled for classes, as it will happen at the end of July. Can’t you not change the date for an earlier one?</p>

<p>honors students dont have any priority except for honors classes, and unlike most generic state flagship…honors isnt that big of a deal at michigan.</p>

<p>Perhaps Honors is not important at Umich, but it is where my D will be attending. At her university, students who applied and were selected for the Honors Program (150 students), through a combination of GPA, leadership and essays have priority to select their classes. Like I said, in early April, she went for a week-end and with the advice of her Major GC, she chose her classes for next year. She also received her student ID. Where she will be going, Honors classes are ONLY for Honors students, so it is irrevelant.</p>

<p>which state flagship is your daughter going to? The reason why some of the honors program at lesser state Us are such big of a deal is because many lower tier state university do not have the resources to provide top notch education for 30000 people. Thus, they give special attention and opportunity to their best students. However, this is not the case for michigan. Berkeley, Michigan and UVA form a class of its own amongst public universities.</p>

<p>According to US ranking, she is going to a tier 1 university, same as Umich, I believe. There is no honors courses, there is honors paths, where students do research and write a thesis at the end of 4 years. Maybe you are right about giving to their best students. After all, isn’t what selective/private colleges do when they chose which students will have the privilege to attend their school, and which one will be waitlisted/rejected? I don’t know about the other schools, but don’t tell me there is no special privileges somewhere at Umich.</p>

<p>there are 100 tier 1 universities in US news. you cant honestly think ohio state or michigan state (both in 100) are all at the same level as U of M, so you arent really saying much there.</p>

<p>Your daughter is attending University of Michigan- Ann Arbor, Flint, Dearborn etc…?</p>

<p>Though usually when your applying for classes late, your schedule may not be as flexible as you would like, due to take whats OPEN. Though if your daughter is in honors, that problem may not be as high. Not sure…</p>

<p>“there are 100 tier 1 universities in US news. you cant honestly think ohio state or michigan state (both in 100) are all at the same level as U of M, so you arent really saying much there.”</p>

<p>Except that I was talking in term of flagship universities. Ohio State and such, are not flagship universities. I also was replying to the comment “some lesser tier university…”, pointing out that where my D is going as well as Umich are tier 1. As for Ohio State not being at the same level as Umich, I really don’t know because I have not attended any of them, and I doubt many did (attend them both in order to make an informed comparison).</p>

<p>do you really not know too much about colleges? Ohio State is not a flagship university? What?</p>

<p>lol probably another parent who blindly follows US News</p>

<p>What are you talking about. I am NOT the one who follow US ranking. I merely made a mistake with regards to Ohio State not being a flagship. Bearcat is the one telling that Umich is not comparable to Ohio State and Michigan State, eventhough he pointed out that these 3 are tier one and rank in the top hundred. I am just curious, how does he know which university is better than the other.</p>

<p>I’m kind of curious why you’re so reluctant to tell which university your daughter is going to…</p>

<p>my guess is it’s Vanderbilt or wash u.</p>

<p>It’s a state flagship, why would you guess Vanderbilt and WashU?</p>

<p>Bearcats is merely saying that there are still SIGNIFICANT differences in quality of education even within tier 1 universities. Michigan is not too far behind Harvard, Stanford, and Yale in the rankings , and yet we all kno that there is a significant difference between them. He is applying that same reasoning to other tier 1 universities like michigan state and ohio state who may be ranked somewhat lower as compared to Michigan. Besides that fact, its just common knowledge and agreement that Michigan is superior to these kinds of universities. So it does matter which college your daughter goes to even though it is a tier 1 university if you are going to make assumptions about honors programs</p>

<p>Her daughter is probably going to one of the last few in the first Tier, like Arizona State.</p>

<p>I’m guessing it’s Univ of Tennessee.</p>

<p>What a weird hijack. </p>

<p>The OP would like to know if a late orientation date is going to significantly affect the ability to register for classes. </p>

<pre><code>Do any current UMich students. recent graduates or parents — with students going to Umich and not to some other public university — have an answer?
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<p>I was told by people that I should register for an early orientation so classes don’t get all filled. If they would really get filled or not, I don’t know first hand, but it seems many people who go there think they do.</p>