<p>Alright, like many people on this board, I can see the finish line in regards to UC's posting admissions. I'm assuming that UCB and UCLA are the top 2 undergrad business schools, so who's third and how's the list go? What kind of education can you get and how respectable is a degree from say UCSB? Thanks much.</p>
<p>All the UC's are respected in the state of California. However, if you wish to get out of the state or have a higher chance of getting the competitive high paying jobs, UCB and UCLA are the way to go.</p>
<p>UCLA has no ug business school.</p>
<p>if you're looking for a business administration degree, then berkeley is the way to go. i'm not sure which other UC's have an undergrad business degree... maybe UCR?</p>
<p>if you're looking for business job opportunities, then select the schools in descending order of how they're generally ranked. of course, UCB has business administration, but at least UCLA has business economics (which is mostly economics with some management courses) whereas most UC's only have economics.</p>
<p>I went to and graduated from the Anderson School of Business at UCLA (MBA 1980), but have to admit that for the life of me I cannot understand why this institution does not offer an undergraduate degree in business. Business economics as a major at the ug level is just not the same. </p>
<p>I love my alma mater, but I do wish they'd realize that in the 21st century having an ug business school for a nationally ranked program makes sense.</p>
<p>An additional note. The only real ug business schools in the UC system are at Berkeley, Riverside, and the new one just starting up at Merced.</p>
<p>While UC Santa Cruz and UC Irvine claim to have business schools, both of them allow you to major in essentially only one or two programs. I think at Santa Cruz it's Information Technology--and at Irvine it's Information Technology and Quantitative Sciences. And UCLA, UC-Davis, UCSD, UCSF and UCSB have no undergraduate business programs</p>
<p>"Real" business programs cover areas like management, accounting, finance, marketing, operations, strategic management, entrepreneurship, and international business. </p>
<p>My son will go out of state for this reason--to find a "real" ug business school--since he doesn't have the grades for Berkeley. And the business schools are UC Riverside and UC Merced just don't measure up. </p>
<p>I think it's a travesty--here's the largest state in the country--with over 30 million citizens--and it's major univeristy system only has one undergraduate business program ranked in the top 100. What does that tell you about how screwed up the educational administrators in the UC system are?</p>
<p>Oh, pish post, calcruzer, Cal's the best. UCR and UCB have the undergrad business, and if you're interested in CA privates, USC is worth looking into, as might USD, U Redlands, USF. Other publics with business are SDSU and Cal Poly SLO may be worth your while, as might Fullerton or Cal Poly Pomona.</p>
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<p>i personally agree, but i think most top colleges in academia still believe that economics is a much more academic major that business. many top colleges don't have an undergrad business major, including harvard, stanford, yale, etc.</p>
<p>yeah, why not USC? if your son is going out of state, tuition should be about the same.</p>
<p>Er, about the same, with a 10k or so difference (assuming no fin aid). USC is pretty good with merit aid.</p>
<p>USC's a good school--but like I said about Cal, Berkeley--you got to have the grades. Average incoming GPA at USC is something like 3.89 and it's 3.93 at Berkeley.</p>
<p>Here's my point since I think some people are missing it:</p>
<p>UCB ranks #3 in the country in ug business, USC ranks #9--then the next highest ranked California school with ug business is Santa Clara at #57, then Pepperdine at #66, then UC Riverside and San Diego State tied at #77, then Univ of San Diego at #87, then Loyola Marymount at #106, then Cal State Los Angeles at #116. </p>
<p>So to summarize--California has 5 public colleges and 4 private colleges in the top 116--and only two of these in the top 55 for ug business. </p>
<p>Now let's look at the list for the top schools in California in general (not taking into account ug business programs):</p>
<p>Stanford #5, Cal Tech #7, UC Berkeley #20, UCLA #25, USC#30, UCSD #32, UC Irvine #40, UC Santa Barbara #45, UC Davis #48, Pepperdine #55, UC Santa Cruz #68, UC Riverside #85, Univ of San Diego and Univ of Pacific tied at #104, Univ of San Francisco #115.</p>
<p>That's 15 schools--and 10 of these are in the top 55. </p>
<p>So with such great schools--I guess I don't understand why they don't put some emphasis into the ug business programs. I doubt that it would take away from their exhaulted ratings.</p>
<p>I'm not sure what your conclusion is. </p>
<p>Also, I think there are some great liberal arts colleges (few could disagree with Pomona and Harvey Mudd, but there are others such as Occidental, Pitzer, ect) that one could attend and go into business easily afterwards.</p>
<p>I would bet that within the next 5-7 years Pepperdine's undergrad B.S. in Management program will become a top 10 program. There is no other program like it anywhere.</p>
<p>What's so great about it?</p>
<p>First of all to my knowledge a B.S. in Management is an uncommon degree. Most B schools have undergrad programs that grant a degree in Business Administration. Now although the two are often used as though they mean the same thing it is i fact quite different. Pepperdines program is offered only at their graduate campuses and is taught by grad school faculty. It also puts alot of emphasis on Orginization and Strategic Management. For the elective portion of the program you are able to take classes with emphasis on executive management and corporate governance, something im sure is going to be a hot field very soon. Another great benefit looking at it from an academic point of view, and yes I will admit Pepperdine is held in high esteem but only regionally, if you are an outstanding student and score an above average score on your GMAT, you will be invited to a 3 trimester MBA program with priority to joint degree programs such as JD/MBA MPP/MBA etc.</p>
<p>see i think if anything USC has an advantage for being the only top school for ug business than most other schools around the nation, and that's because there's no competition in the southern cali area, because no other ug business tops it, therefore being a great place for companies from so cali to recruit, or for ug business students to find jobs within the southern cali area, especially with that trojan network.</p>
<p>Why doesn't UCLA just start an undergraduate business program? Then it would be able to surpass USC in the undergraduate business rankings in no time... :rolleyes:</p>
<p>is the Haas (sp?) school at Berkley undergrad? if so, it's a great program.</p>
<p>SC's Marshall is very nice. I'm in it right now. there are certain things i dont like, but overall i'm happy. however, Haas is a great program as well and if i remember right off the top of my head, they have an undergrad as well.</p>
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<p>They do. It's supposed to be amazing.</p>
<p>Yeh I thought I remembered it right.
I didn't take enough Fine Art courses in highschool to meet Berkley's requirements as of 2 years ago. Otherwise, I was definitely looking at it as an option</p>
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