<p>that’s liist’s thesis statement: homosexuality is good, becuase it slows down the process of overpopuluation.</p>
<p>Lmao Liist @ you’re “thats so gay comment” I was on a gay group on myspace and someone started that topic. I think it was about 50/50. I took the side of not caring since I used it. Just because someone uses it, doesn’t make them against gays or homophobic, considering I use it all the time lol.</p>
<p>I agree with some of the dumb laws, but just remember that all gay people are not simliar ;)</p>
<p>MTH - Lol, I’m sorry, are you saying 100% of gay people have Anal sex? I didn’t think that was true. Because, it’s not. You’re just going with the common stereotype. I know several gay couples who have never even went near it. And bologna on the chosen lifestyle. I chose to be gay about as much as YOU chose YOUR race! "if I somehow see a guy with a guy it grosses me out beyond belief. Same thing when I see a girl with a girl. " and then you tell me not to be ashamed, HMMM LOL much?!</p>
<p>" Last thing, there’s an American psychologist who claims he can turn a “gay” person into a “straight” person through a special therapy he has deviced. He has had several “success” patients to back his claim up." - Hmm, did I ever say that all gay people don’t have a choice? Wow, I didn’t think so. QUIT TRYING TO MAKE US ALL SIMILAR! Maybe they just did something wrong. I could say I was straight my whole life, go to bed with a woman, and hide it my whole life. If I wanted to change and went to these ridiculous therapists and said "wee i’m “cured” of a homosexual “disease”. I could go to school get with girls and play off straight. I can’t control it, and its people like you who have no clue. Being gay isn’t a lifestyle either. I’m really curious to wonder how you chose to be straight?</p>
<p>Agh Vivi - You’re totally wrong. I was never curious towards guys, I just knew. AT ONE point in your life you just have to stop fighting things and say I know who I am! Forget about what the world shoves into your face saying its an abomination blah blah, I believe you’re choosing this. I came to realize that and guess what, you’re opinions wrong. You don’t know how it is, and unless you seriously decided to avoid your “Curiousity” for girls, which I’m sure you never had cause you are STRAIGHT born that way, then I don’t think you have an argument here.</p>
<p>Wow, I’m surprised about all the gay supporting schools. I live in South Florida and I don’t think there’s many here at all that support gay males (whether htey know it or not). Believe it or not I had no problem until everyone found out because they couldn’t just look at me and tell, someone told them. But I didn’t really care, they eventually got over it and now I’m good friends with some of them :)</p>
<p>I’m 17, straight as the roads in West Texas, atheist, and libertarian.</p>
<p>I do live in on extremely liberal city, though (Austin), so homosexuals at my school are generally accepted. We have a Gay-Straight Alliance club (which I am not part of) and most people are very open about their sexuality.</p>
<p>I agree with Metdeth’s method of thinking - I believe it’s a choice on the homosexual’s part to choose the extent to which they pursue this curiousity and attraction, and I would sooner die than be a homosexual myself. I guess you could call me indifferent in relation to other people though; I really couldn’t care less about how people are oriented and what they want to try. Laissez-faire. As long as the homosexuals don’t hit on me then I’m fine.</p>
<p>We have MANY lesbians at my school,and people are mostly scared of them..they are cool when you get to know them,but they are really intimidating.They make up like 75% of the girl basketball team,lol.</p>
<p>Lmao @ dreamer. The Lesbians in my class kinda, all get around with eachother. It’s kinda nasty to think that, but I know they do. They tell me all their lesbian sex stories. My school has a much higher lesbian/bi girl percentage than a gay male percentage. Although I know alot of guys too scared to say it, but who can blame them?'</p>
<p>And Liist that is one problem I have. I just don’t like how you compare homosexuality to just helping overpopulation. You’re making it seem like bestiality now. Which is nothing like that at all. That’s what some losers make arguments about “Well if gays can get married then one day a human can get married to an animal.”</p>
<p>the main problem that I have with gay people is that in my experience, they are much more ‘socially liberal’ (aka open about sexuality and sexual things). I know this is not every gay person, but gay culture does support the idea of being open regarding sexual issues. I dont think straight people should be openly talking about sex either. (when i mean openly, i mean like when my friends who are girls (im a male) tell me about how rough they had it last night, and how its hard to walk, or guys who say they pounded that S*** last night).</p>
<p>What’s wrong with being open about sex? I don’t understand the logic behind it. You were just raised to be super modest. That’s all.</p>
<p>As a gay male myself, some of the posts in this thread really bug me. How can anyone say I chose to be gay? How come all of a sudden you know more about me than I do?</p>
<p>I NEVER chose to be gay. I’d like to say it is a combination of nature and nurture that made me this way - none of which I had a say in.</p>
<p>And I really don’t get this “it’s unnatural” belief. How is it unnatural??? lol</p>
<p>Some CCers are so academically talented, yet so incredibly ignorant.</p>
<p>Tom - Talk about judgmental. First off, if you say the main problem i have WITH GAY PEOPLE, you are talking about every gay person. So, that is wrong. Because I’m definitely not open about my sex life. More straight MALES talk about their sex life than gay people. Where did you get that idea ? Since when was gay culture associated with being open about sexual activities? Aren’t you just going with the gay stereotype? </p>
<p>And are you saying that I shouldn’t tell people that I’m gay? Not to be open about sexuality? Are you kidding me?</p>
<p>Re-think about EVERYTHING you just wrote!</p>
<p>JMan - I totally agree with you about ignorance. I’d say that most of the people who dislike gays in my school aren’t the ones with a higher intelligence level. The people that are more intelligent are usually more open to these types of things.</p>
<p>How accepting is your school? I’m in FL also.</p>
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<p>I’d say it is pretty unaccepting overall. A lot of redneck and Republican and religious type students go to my school. But if you hang out with the right people, there shouldn’t be a problem. There are a few students that completely accept homosexuality. I only know of one gay guy who is out. I actually suspected him to be gay before he came out. But other than him, I don’t actually know of any other gay boy at my school. I am sure there are more, but they’re probably just as scared as I am about being open about it. ahaha</p>
<p>Rofl @ this thread..</p>
<p>There are gays. Some are intelligent, some are not. Some are nice, some are ■■■■■■■. Enough said.</p>
<p>JM – You’re not out of the closet? Aw. I came out 8th grade summer, going into 9th grade. You’re right about hanging out with the right people. How did people react when those came out? Do they get made fun of?</p>
<p>Invoyable – I’m a little confused by the post.. Are you trying to prove my point by saying that all gay people are different? That’s what I was saying, but the main arguments here were that being gay is a choice, and some others made some pretty dumb comments. All I was trying to say is don’t assume that we’re all similar cause were not.</p>
<p>Well the one boy didn’t get made fun of. Everyone respected him before he came out. He was very popular. Homecoming and prom king. lol</p>
<p>If I were to come out right now, my mom would be completely fine with it. She told me herself. She is very liberal. Ellen is her favorite show! aha</p>
<p>But the only reason I don’t is because of my dad.</p>
<p>I’ll try to be more open in college since I’ll be meeting new people. And plus, college people tend to be more accepting.</p>
<p>first of all, I said that even in hetero situations, I am disgusted by the open talk of sexual actions, and gay culture is the gay stereotype, that is what I am talking about (also, I know that you are born gay, and there are acutal significant genetic differences between gay people and straight people). I am talking about “gay people” as a whole demographic including their sociopolitical influence on society, not about the relationships that I personally have with gay people. gay culture has always been about being open about sexual activites, they started the “safe sex” campaign when the aids epidemic started. They recently had a gay pride parade in my ht of chicago, and there were TONS of sexually influenced floats, inuendos, and giant rod like items that where atleast suggestive if not profane. I am not telling people that you should or shouldn’t tell people if you are gay, thats your issue entirely, I honestly dont care if your gay or not, infact, i like most of the gay people that I have met, I just do not want to be subjected to the details of your sodomitic adventures with your pals (that was harsh I know, and I know that there are a large number of gay people that dont have anal sex, but there are a vocal group of gay people that I know that are, and by saying you, I do not mean you specifically, but anyone in general). I have no problem with gay people having gay thoughts about other men, or even acting on them, I just dont like about how the gay culture is very open about it. </p>
<p>I know that talking about gay culture the way I am is similar to refering to all teenagers as MTV watching idiots (which I know is not the case) but I use genearlizations because I am talking about the sociopolitical influence of a group of people on the population, not about specific gay people, so it requires the use of generalizations. </p>
<p>Finally, Jman, about the talking about open sexuality, i agree that today I would be considered “modest”, but this is a totally different subject altogether, and I have many different thoughts about this </p>
<p>And to you LMU10, where specifically do you get off telling me what I am saying. I agree with most of your arguments, and I am truly sympathetic to the your troubles, but to truly win (aka change peoples mind, and I dont mean to sound condescending or patronizing) you have to remove your emotional ego from the argument.</p>
<p>Me, along with many others, don’t even agree with gay parades. I think they’re pointless and I don’t remember if I wrote that in this thread or not. When you say gay people and gay culture it makes you seem like you are saying all gay people and all of the gay culture, which I certainly don’t agree with. Sorry, I thought you were trying to say that you disagree with something, and it seemed like you weren’t happy with the gay community. My fault, take back everything I said. But my question is, since your not against openly displaying their sexuality, are you saying I shouldn’t kiss my boyfriend in public?</p>
<p>Jman - I’m truly sorry, but you can come out without your parents knowing. I did it for awhile. But, somehow they found out (don’t put GAY as your orientation on myspace, lol). And I guess its just a thing that everyone in my family knows, but nobody talks about it. Dont’ say anything about it don’t bring it up and everything works. It’s kinda cool, but their side jokes that they think are so funny, are actually pretty lame. Screw them.</p>
<p>Atleast for me kissing is not that bad. I am not claiming to be a judge of character, and I would not agree with legislation limiting any thing of the sort, but watching two guys hard core make out makes me a little queesey.</p>
<p>So don’t watch (to the post beneath mine)? </p>
<p>DANG IT I HATE THESE POSTING PROBLEMS! Lol.</p>
<p>Exactly, no one is forcing you to watch. ;)</p>
<p>I don’t know if anyone should be hard core making out then. Is it okay for two straight people to do it? I think there is nothing wrong with public display of affection to limits. I don’t think seeing tongue wrestling just in a public place is right, lol. I don’t like going in public when I have a boyfriend, so I guess you’re like most people. I’m afraid. Call me a wimp. Lol</p>