<p>^I love how “conservative and discriminatory,” versus “discriminatory,” is the antithesis of “open people.” </p>
<p>For the record, some of the biggest idiots regarding sexuality I know are incredibly liberal. That’s irrelevant. I’m not gay, but this ****es me off:</p>
<p>“I don’t care if someone is gay, I just don’t want them to hit on me all the time.” </p>
<p>Yes, because all gay people will hit on you just like all the girls ALSO hit on you…Right.</p>
<p>Well, I live in one of the most controversial states in the U.S, so gay kids aren’t really accepted at my school. We have a GSA and everything (which I’ll be the president of next year), but people still make stupid remarks. </p>
<p>And I agree with Thelonius. Gay Pride parades may be a little “out there,” but in a world where people threaten your life because of your orientation, people hate you, call you names, beat you, etc . . . that kind of supportive attention is a blessing for a lot of people. It’s a place where one feels welcome and accepted when no on else will accept you. The media just likes to focus on the fairly slutty side of Pride, which, granted, there is.</p>
<p>And the bi-fad drives me CRAZY!!! It’s STUPID. Most girls do it to have an excuse to sleep with as many people as they can from either sex. It’s absolutely disgusting and atrocious, and gives a VERY negative impact on the gay/lesbian community. High school girls who pretend to be bi are just unreasonably stupid. GRRRRRR.</p>
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<p>wow, this is a very popular post
yes i agree with dragontoe on the bi-fad
as a highly religious and conservative christian, i do not openly embrace homosexuality</p>
<p>I agree too. I am conservative, but definitely in no way narrow-minded or discriminatory. Then again, I don’t think gay marriage should be an issue because I don’t want civil marriages in general, but that’s another issue…</p>
<p>Bi-fad is dumb. If anyone is legitimately concerned about discrimination, then something needs to change because no one should fear violence or rejection because of sexual orientation.</p>
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How the heck is being bi a fad thing?</p>
<p>^ Because many girls who claim to be bi really aren’t. They just make out with girls because it’s the “in” thing to do. Seriously 80% of the guys who find out I’m bi say something along the lines of “Can I watch?”. It’s annoying, especially since I have a boyfriend. It is also extremely annoying when people go “Oh, so since you’re dating a guy, you’re straight now right?” No. I am bi. I just happen to be dating a guy. /rant.</p>
<p>At my school I believe most of the students (mainly girls) who are bi, really aren’t. It’s yet again, as stated before, a fad. They think it sounds good so they do it. It’s something interesting. It really bugs me. I’m straight and a very Conservative Christian, but I believe that there are people who are genuinly struggly with their sexuality and for those people who are just acting like they’re bi, it’s horrible.</p>
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Ah, ok.
Yeah. People today think you’re either straight or gay. Is it so hard to understand someone can like both sexes?</p>
<p>^ I think that sexuality is a spectrum that you fall on. I don’t honestly think it’s possible to be 100% straight or 100% gay, instead I believe we’re all varying degrees of bisexual. I have a long reason to back this up, but I am too lazy to type it out.</p>
<p>LOL, i hear that all the time.
Nobody is fully straight or fully gay.</p>
<p>I’ve never believed that, you can be all or nothing. I’m not attracted to females, and I’ve experimented with it, I’m not bisexual, I’m 99% sure I’m fully gay.</p>
<p>I do think people can be bisexual, don’t get me wrong, it’s just I’m not.</p>
<p>Oh, and to the conservative and discriminatory comment. Conservative, what I was trying to prove was, they may not ACCEPT YOU. Therefore, they aren’t exactly discriminating, thats why i said BOTH of them. :)</p>
<p>^^ Sounds like the Kinsey hypothesis. I agree to an extent. I think everyone has an attraction to the same sex to a degree. I mean, girls think other girls are pretty, and guys know when other guys are good looking. It’s basically human nature. I think what makes gay people GAY is the fact that gay men and women fall in love with the same-sex.</p>
<p>I do respect some people who are “truly bi,” as you say, but I hate hate hate it when bisexual people date both sexes at once. Just because you’re bi doesn’t mean you can be a slut, thank you very much. Although, I’m definitely not in any place to judge. It’s not any of my business, and it’s not affecting me, so I really should have no say in the matter.
But then again, it gives SUCH a negative impact on the gay/lesbian community, and is just making the fight for equal rights that much harder. Because you’re being stupid. So it DOES affect others. <em>Sigh</em> The world frustrates me.</p>
<p>Dragontoe, there are whores in every community. Although, in the gay community, I think unfortunately there are more :(</p>
<p>I really hate it, I’ve met many gay whores, so it does stink. And I think you should hate it when anyone dates TWO people at once.</p>
<p>Well . . . the way I see it is if heterosexual people date two people at once, society doesn’t care all that much. I mean sure, they are considered whores by some. But it doesn’t affect me in any way, so I am in no place to judge.</p>
<p>But when gay, lesbian, and bisexual people date two people at once (giving off a “whore vibe”), then society FREAKS OUT and starts to point out that if one gay person does this, all of them will. It is very bad representation for people who are fighting for rights to get married. Marriage is about commitment, and if people don’t start seeing that in the LGBT community, the right to marry is just going to get harder to obtain.</p>
<p>"Oh, and to the conservative and discriminatory comment. Conservative, what I was trying to prove was, they may not ACCEPT YOU. Therefore, they aren’t exactly discriminating, thats why i said BOTH of them. "</p>
<p>Uh… You mentioned teasing/discrimination, and then “open people,” the opposite of which to you was clearly “conservative and discriminatory people,” which is exactly what you said. In other words, “conservative” people aren’t open. I will concede that many conservative people do not condone homosexual behavior. But that doesn’t always equate to violence or discrimination. Being liberal doesn’t mean that you’re in any way okay with one of your friends or a sibling being gay. You would be surprised at the number of raging liberals who act incredibly mean toward gay people at my school. I’m just saying that in schools/colleges, “conservative” and “liberal” tend not to mean “discriminatory/intolerant” and “tolerant.” </p>
<p>Anyway, I do not think that everyone is a shade of bi (that sounds weird). I am completely straight. I have friends who are completely gay. It just does not make sense for me to picture myself with a male, just as it would not make sense for them to picture themselves with someone of the same gender.</p>
<p>Well, in political party generalizations, conservatives tend to be very anti-gay everything, and liberals tend to be very pro-gay marriage. It’s a general stereotype of the political parties in America.</p>
<p>Individuals can certainly have their own opinions on the matter, no matter the associated political party. But it is stereotypical that conservatives be a little bit close-minded when it comes to gay rights.</p>
<p>Conservative and liberal aren’t “political parties”. </p>
<p>The conservative view on gay issues is “no”, but Republicans can vary their opinions.</p>
<p>Conservative does NOT equal discriminatory, I never said that. </p>
<p>You’re right with Liberals. But how many liberals accept homosexuals compared to Conservatives?</p>
<p>You’re right, but if anyone changes in any way their attitude towards a person because of their sexuality, I DO consider that discrimination, conservative or not. I’ve met great conservatives who don’t judge me for who I am, although they don’t necessarily like it they didn’t exactly know before, and got to know me, so didn’t let their opinion change on just a sexual preference that I can’t help.</p>
<p>I hope it didn’t sound like I was trying to say all conservatives were discriminatory against homosexuals, wasn’t my intentions.</p>
<p>Oh ya. Sorry bout that. But, going in the same direction, the majority of Republicans tend to be more on the conservative side. As the same with democrats and liberals. It’s all a stereotype thing.</p>
<p>Right, I’m not arguing about whether conservatives want gay marriage or deal with homosexuality positively or whatever. But a minority of them resort to discrimination.</p>
<p>In addition, we’re talking about school settings here. I’ve met rich kids, poor, kids, private school kids, public school kids, French kids, Slavic kids, American kids, gifted kids, dumb kids, etc. I’ve been in a lot of different schools, and noticed that there is absolutely no correlation between convictions about gay people and saying dumb/offensive things about homosexuals. Granted, I have not lived in the deep south, but homosexuality in my area is not entirely condoned either. Very few openly discriminate, but snide remarks and shunning are practiced by people regardless of whether they are liberal or conservative.</p>
<p>“But it is stereotypical that conservatives be a little bit close-minded when it comes to gay rights.”</p>
<p>“Closed-minded” as in disagreeing with you? That’s interesting, because the “closed-minded” definition usually refers to people who do not accept other ideas… Hmm. I don’t think that “conservatives” or “liberals” are more prone to this, to be honest. Remember to consider that open-mindedness doesn’t mean following principles that are against the status quo. That is, advocating for the current state of affairs while listening to the opinions of others is not closed-minded. There are closed-minded conservatives. And liberals. Your statement is flawed because disagreement with gay rights doesn’t equate with closed-mindedness. Not listening to any ideas advocating gay marriage would be closed-minded. As would not listening to any ideas against gay marriage.</p>
<p>Anyway, I really don’t want to get this discussion off-track. I now know that it wasn’t your intention, and that was definitely the way I read it.</p>
<p>Well, open-mindedness is a willingness to accept other peoples opinions, even if they are not your own. The close-mindedness I am referring to are the people (which of course can be liberal or conservative) who flat out disagree with homosexuality and don’t even respect others opinions. Maybe it’s because I live in Utah, and most people here are absolutely horrid to the gay community. I have lived in a place where people won’t listen to others opinions and think they know the absolute truth. This is the close-mindedness I refer to.</p>
<p>I think that’s my problem, actually. I’m basing my argument off of my personal experience. Forgive me. I haven’t met many conservatives who respect others opinions. I am definitely aware of close-minded liberals, as well.</p>