<p>In light of the "Asians & College Prestige" thread, I like to compose a list of successful Asians (preferably Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese) who didn't go to an elite university and is doing very well. </p>
<p>The rules: you cannot list an East Asian who graduated from a Top 40 National university. Preferably, I want a list of Asians from below Top 50 universities.</p>
<p>Steve Kim - Korean - Cal State Northridge
[Tech</a> Entrepreneur Steve Y. Kim | Most Inspiring Asian Americans of All Time | Asian American Personalities | GOLDSEA](<a href=“Asian American Supersite”>Tech Entrepreneur Steve Y. Kim | Most Inspiring Asian Americans of All Time | Asian American Personalities | GOLDSEA)</p>
<p>Andrew Cheng - Chinese - Cal Poly Pomona
[Asia</a> Society Southern California » Andrew Cherng Bio](<a href=“ALEXISTOGEL ✈️ Situs Data Keluaran Togel Singapore Terakurat Hari Ini”>ALEXISTOGEL ✈️ Situs Data Keluaran Togel Singapore Terakurat Hari Ini)</p>
<p>Hubert Vo - Vietnamese - University of Houston
[Texas</a> Congressman Hubert Vo | Most Inspiring Asian Americans | Asian American Personalities | GoldSea](<a href=“Asian American Supersite”>Texas Congressman Hubert Vo | Most Inspiring Asian Americans | Asian American Personalities | GoldSea)</p>
<p>Scott Oki - Japanese - University of Colorado
[Microsoft</a> Pioneer/Philanthropist Scott Oki | Famous Asian American Rats | Asian American Personalities | GoldSea](<a href=“Asian American Supersite”>Microsoft Pioneer/Philanthropist Scott Oki | Famous Asian American Rats | Asian American Personalities | GoldSea)</p>
<p>Koichi Nishimura - Japanese - San Jose State
<a href=“http://www.asianpacificfund.org/awards/bio_nishimura.shtml[/url]”>http://www.asianpacificfund.org/awards/bio_nishimura.shtml</a></p>
<p>Daniel K. Inouye - Japanese - University of Hawaii
[Hawaii</a> Senator Daniel K. Inouye 1/3 | 80 Most Inspiring Asian Americans of All Time | Asian American Personalities | GOLDSEA](<a href=“Asian American Supersite”>Hawaii Senator Daniel K. Inouye 1/3 | The Most Inspiring Asian Americans of All Time | Asian American Personalities | GOLDSEA)</p>
<p>Saqib Ali - Pakistani - University of Maryland
[Saqib</a> Ali - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saqib_Ali]Saqib”>Saqib Ali - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>Connie Chung - Chinese - University of Maryland
[Connie</a> Chung - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connie_Chung]Connie”>Connie Chung - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>Susan C. Lee - Asian - University of Maryland
[Susan</a> C. Lee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_C._Lee]Susan”>Susan C. Lee - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>Eun Yang - Korean - University of Maryland
[Eun</a> Yang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eun_Yang]Eun”>Eun Yang - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>Vyomesh Joshi - Indian - Ohio State
[Vyomesh</a> Joshi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vyomesh_Joshi]Vyomesh”>Vyomesh Joshi - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>Yang<em>Huiyan - Chinese - Ohio State
[Yang Huiyan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“Yang - Wikipedia”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang</a></em>Huiyan)</p>
<p>P. Chungmoo Auh - Korean - Ohio State
president of the Korean Institute of Energy Research (B.S. 1967; M.S. 1970; Ph. D 1975)</p>
<p>Liz Cho - Korean - Boston University
<a href=“http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/bio?section=ontv/stationinfo/bios&id=3301249[/url]”>http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/bio?section=ontv/stationinfo/bios&id=3301249</a></p>
<p>Dorian Ho - Chinese - Boston University
[Dorian</a> Ho - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorian_Ho]Dorian”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorian_Ho)</p>
<p>Stephen M. Kohn - Korean - Boston University
[Stephen</a> M. Kohn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_M._Kohn]Stephen”>Stephen M. Kohn - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>lol umm, oky =P</p>
<p>Next topic is: find successful half asians with a german dad and vietnamese mom! Extra points if the mom wears glasses!</p>
<p>Here you go
Nicolai Kinski
[Nikolai</a> Kinski - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Kinski]Nikolai”>Nikolai Kinski - Wikipedia)</p>
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<p>Why must you mock me, son? </p>
<p>Do you realize how much pressure Asians have to go to Ivies? Do you realize all the propaganda that Asians (particularly East Asians) are fed with? The propaganda that if you don’t attend an Ivy or elite brand name university, you will NEVER become successful in life? </p>
<p>Do you realize how much emotional turmoil us East Asians go through just for the sake of attending an Ivy? Do you know that because of all these pressures, we East Asians suffer from high rates of mental illnesses, depression, and suicidal thoughts? </p>
<p>Seriously, I am trying to spread the message that if you’re Asian, and you don’t attend an Ivy or elite university, it’s okay, and you will do fine in life. I would hope to spread this message to all the prestige-mongering East Asians and their parents.</p>
<p>^ Nice comeback. x_x</p>
<p>I’m Asian, and born in Asia, never have my parents ever pressured me to goto an ivy league school, I have many Asian friends, very few of them were pressured. </p>
<p>I really think this is a bad stereotype of Asian parents, they are just like any other parents, they want the best for their children, want them to be healthy, upstanding people and want to see their children’s full potential realized.</p>
<p>And this title is self-contradicting. You are prestigious if you are successful.</p>
<p>keefer, hopefully the thread link below will enlighten you:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/170748-asians-college-prestige-29.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/170748-asians-college-prestige-29.html</a></p>
<p>You seem to be fortunate that your parents never pressured you to go Ivy or else. But many Asian parents aren’t so generous… </p>
<p>I WISH that this was only a stereotype of Asian parents. I really do…</p>
<p>Hopefully the thread I’ve linked to will give you some understanding into Asians and their obsession with prestige. </p>
<p>The title was meant to say “Sucessful Asians who didn’t attend prestigious schools.” I should change the title b/c it might be confusing/misleading…</p>
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<p>rofl. not where i live.</p>
<p>A decent list, only a few problems.</p>
<p>Koichi Nishimura got his PhD from Stanford, so that virtually erases his San Jose State degree.</p>
<p>Also, two of the people (liz Cho and Stephen Kohn) are ethnically mixed and really are not considered Asians (Kohn doesn’t look Asian at all). </p>
<p>I would prefer to see some full-blooded Asians who are successful despite not having elite degrees (that is, never went to an elite undergrad, nor earned a PhD from an elite university).</p>
<p>Why is your mentality such that you have to point at someone else and say, “See? This person is successful and THEY didn’t attend HYP, so therefore I don’t have to, either”?</p>
<p>It’s still prestige-whoring, in a different fashion - because your standards are still predicated on what other people do. Why can’t these Asian parents be happy if their kids are self-sufficient financially, hard-working, intellectually active, productive and kind members of society? Why can’t that be enough for them? I consider it a moral failing on someone’s part if they define success merely by money / prestige.</p>
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<p>If you’re Asian, you would understand. Coming from ultra competitive Asian parents (a brother is a PhD from MIT and another brother is getting his MD from Harvard) with ultra competitive Asian peers (I can tell you that of all the Chinese parents out there, probably 75-80% have children who attended Ivies), I’m literally the black sheep of not just my family, but probably the entire Asian community in my high school because I only attended a Top 50 university (supposedly, the “lowest” tier Asians in my high school went to NYU and Michigan). </p>
<p>I do want to make it clear that it’s very important to get a good education. I just think it’s disgusting that East Asians have this perverse mindset that the ONLY place you can get a good education is at a top brand name high school.</p>
<p>Pizzagirl, I feel bad because in a sense, I feel like I’m denigrating the school you attend. Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing but respect for these elite institutions and the people who attend them. I know you worked hard to get into a top school and that you received an excellent education from it. If what I say offends you, please don’t let whatever I say take away your accomplishments. </p>
<p>I’m a sad cautionary tale, I admit it. I’ve just had so much frustrations I need to vent somewhere – and I’d rather do it anonymously while at the same time, at least talk about what I think is wrong with East Asian values and their prestige-mongering. I’ve experienced a lot of s*it from their prestige-mongering Chinese people because I was not “up” to them. They’ve constantly made me feel like I’m some kind of animal because I was never as top a student as they were. I worked hard, got good grades, and generally tried to be socially active, but I’ve experienced some real psychological trauma from prestige-gunning Chinese and Korean students. </p>
<p>Who would’ve thought that Chinese and Korean kids could be so brutal? They are. They’re not this way to white people, but they are this way to each other. Unlike Americans, Chinese students don’t resort to physical violence. They know that physical pain is temporary – and further, many Chinese students feel that they have a duty to maintain their image as the model minority so they’re “smart” enough to know that acting violently will tarnish that image. They’d rather play with your emotions because they know that it hurts deeper. It’s psychologically bullying at its worse.</p>
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<p>Believe me, if you were born and living in mainland China or Korea, the situation would be far worse. Not only will you be looked down upon, getting an elite career or even a decent one would be so much more difficult, compared to U.S., with a non-prestigious degree.</p>
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<p>You’re probably right.</p>
<p>That’s why youth suicides are so common in China and Korea. And society even approves of these suicides because it’s a sick, perverse form of social darwinism. China and Korea call it “culling the herd” (kill of the weak students so that only the strong survive). </p>
<p>It’s no wonder that Japanese youth started to become disillusioned…</p>
<p>If I were in China and Korea, I’d probably have a mental breakdown.</p>
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<p>do u usually hang out with fobs? If so, I understand. But, Asians born in the U.S. are usually much more understanding and mature with this college prestige thing. They know that it isn’t as much of big deal as it is portrayed to be, thus, they don’t care as much. Also, I know many Asians who are not attending top schools. In fact, there seem to be far more Asians who attend non-prestigious schools compared to elite schools. Perhaps you are meeting wrong folks, because in U.S., you have an option of avoiding those groups of folks to certain extent. (although our parents and older generations are much worse.)</p>
<p>Also, Asians have a very narrow scope of defining what the elite schools are. Traditionally, the elite schools, according to popular Asian beliefs, are: HYPSM, UC Berkeley, UCLA, UPenn, Columbia, Cornell, UChicago, Brown(kind of), Johns Hopkins(borderline). These few schools are actually pretty much it. All these schools have big names, but many other fine schools are either unheard of among vast percentage of Asians or are not so appreciated by the Asians. Most Asians wouldn’t consider schools such as WashU, Emory, Vandy, UMich, Dartmouth, etc, as that good even if all these are top schools no doubt.</p>
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<p>I’ve befriended many Japanese and Filipino Americans who were born and raised in the US (many of them third or fourth generation). Believe me, Japanese and Filipinos were much more sympathetic to me and I had much stronger friendships with these two groups than the Chinese and Koreans.</p>
<p>Most of the Chinese and Koreans were first and second generation (the second generations were very brutal – because their parents were highly educated immigrants so they expect their children to be nothing but the best) so that does explain things a bit.</p>
<p>Like I said, the Japanese and Filipinos were much friendlier to me. As with the Vietnamese. Then again, it probably makes sense because the Japanese and Filipinos were third or fourth generation so they are much more well-grounded and sympathetic than Chinese and Koreans.</p>
<p>It’s funny that Japanese Americans are still stereotyped as overachievers because most Japanese Americans I’ve met aren’t nearly as prestige-obsessed as the Chinese and Koreans. The thing is, most Japanese Americans I know do very well with their lives and never felt the need to seek prestige. </p>
<p>One of my favorite high school teachers was Japanese American and she was the kindest person I’ve met – she was always someone I can turn to when I felt like I couldn’t even talk to my parents. She became an informal aunt to me.</p>
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<p>Michigan is an interesting choice. In my high school, Michigan was acceptable, but it was still considered the “lowest ranked school” acceptable for Chinese people. UCLA is hugely popular with Chinese and Koreans, even on the East Coast. UCLA is probably the only school that carries more prestige with Asians than everybody else. (Not to say UCLA isn’t a great school, it’s definitely a fantastic school but it definitely carries more clout with Asians than other ethnicities.) </p>
<p>One intriguing school (not mentioned on your list) is NYU. NYU seems to be very popular with Chinese and Koreans at my high school even though it’s not that highly ranked (its ranked in the 30s – which is way too low to be considered prestigious by East Asian standards). </p>
<p>Yet I wonder why NYU is so popular with otherwise prestige-gunning East Asians? Is</p>
<p>Here’s a great SAT question:</p>
<p>UCLA : Asians</p>
<p>a.) Howard : Blacks
b.) BYU : Mormons
c.) Notre Dame : Irish
d.) Miami : Latinos
e.) all of the above</p>