<p>Hi, I'm currently a freshmen in USC's Marshall School of Business and am looking to transfer to NYU Stern of Business. I'm just wondering if anyone here at USC has transferred to Stern before?</p>
<p>My HS stats: (I'm from a well known high school in New Jersey)
UW GPA: 3.70
SAT 1: 2160
SAT 2: Math IIc: 750 US History: 720
USC GPA: not yet out but I am doing very well in my classes.</p>
<p>I always thought that NYU was an inferior school in general but 6 of my high school alumnis (4 current seniors and 2 juniors) who went to NYU Stern from my school have/are ALL interned at Wall Street conglomerates and investment banks, and the seniors specifically have already secured job offers from well respected firms (JP Morgan, Barclays and Morgan Stanley). It seems that NYU is not much but their Stern School is very well respected. Yet the alumni from my school who had gone to USC (3 of them) seem to have just interned at much lesser firms around LA (non-investment banking), which is very worrying me because I have ambitions for investment banking at Wall Street too. Despite USC being a great school with a great atmosphere (it's amazing here), I'm planning to transfer to NYU Stern after freshmen year.</p>
<p>My questions:</p>
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<li>Has anyone transferred to NYU Stern before - what were your stats?</li>
<li>I was rejected from NYU Stern but chose USC over UCLA, Boston College and Carnegie Mellon - will this affect my transfer admissions?</li>
<li>Could I transfer to NYU CAS (easier admissions) then internal transfer to NYU Stern?</li>
<li>Does NYC (Wall St.) firms recruit at USC?</li>
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<p>Any advice of this would be much appreciated thanks.</p>
<p>Have you been going to any of the TIS IB bulge bracket or middle-market events on campus or applied for the NYC or SF finance trips? People going on the NYC trip are going to have a chance to interview with blackstone. Interestingly enough I applied to NYU as well but ended up going to USC since the nyu campus tour completely turned me off.</p>
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<li>I can’t answer this.</li>
<li>It shouldn’t.</li>
<li>Stern does not allow people to transfer into CAS and then transfer again into Stern from CAs.</li>
<li>It sounds like you haven’t been fully utilizing Marshall’s resources or been networking at all. GS, UBS, Barclays, Credit Suisse, MS, and co. have all been on campus for TIS events or info sessions over the past few weeks.</li>
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<p>Yes firms like those recruit at USC, but NOT for front office (ex. investment banking) positions - they are usually for middle office and backoffice (operations). Heck GS even recruits at SUNY and Penn State for back-office positions. </p>
<p>I find it ironic how the most popular degree concentration is finance and business economics yet only 16% end up in the financial service industry.</p>
<p>From what I’ve heard, VERY few students get into investment banking at USC (as in REAL job offers). For example, the only West-Coast schools that Merrill Lynch NYC recruits for front office positions in Berkeley and Stanford. Also in terms of networking, i just can’t see how USC can be better than Stern in terms of networking when Stern is located right in the heart of NYC.</p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong ,USC Marshall is a great school but I’m trying to aim high towards the banking industry and i think that NYU Stern may have more of an edge in finance.</p>
<p>i agree that you should go to nyu if you want to end up on wall street. </p>
<p>but BB’s do recruit for front office; we have a ton of ibd info sessions for BBs, MMs, and boutiques; we have a couple trips for selected students to go to NY and SF specifically for BB and MM ibd recruiting as well as job listings on OCR</p>
<p>but meh, growing up in cali, i would never want to live in new york lol</p>
<p>Yeah I saw the company presentations and events for investment banking that TIS has but most of the panelists are just ex-alumni - not actual recruiters like the ones from earnst and young and KPMG that come here. Also, it would be hard to get straight into IB from college, and youl prolly be going for an MBA, so undergrad shouldnt matter as much. I do agree though that NYU’s location and its proximity to wall street beats USC’s location. But if its New York you want, I think you should be looking at Columbia if you want to transfer at all; in my opinion NYU isnt worth transferring to lolz. Im pretty sure recruiters prefer columbia grads</p>
<p>Yes, I’m not surprised with the Big 4 recruiting here at USC since the Leviathan School is pretty darn good. I was thinking the same about Columbia too but it might be too far of a reach.</p>
<p>I was thinking very similar with you HappyBuddha, I personally thought NYU to Columbia is like Boston College to Harvard, so i viewed it negatively. However the recruiting at NYU Stern specifically is indisputably insane, specifically for investment banking. Six of my alumni from my high school were able to land Investment banking gigs during their sophomore summer at smaller firms (boutiques) then leverage that experience to getting investment banking offers at the bulge brackets (think MS, JPM, BAML). </p>
<p>Check one of their business frats out - Delta Sigma Pi
[Delta</a> Sigma Pi | Alpha](<a href=“http://www.dspalpha.org/]Delta”>http://www.dspalpha.org/)
Click on “Brothers” then “internships/jobs” and that’s just one of a few.</p>
<p>I’m was surprised as heck they could land those via Stern - I thought Stern was second tier but those front office internships are no joke. </p>
<p>I personally don’t really care about prestige, all I want is to get a fair opportunity to land an investment banking job (since I’m planning an MBA anyway), which Stern clearly seems to provide more opportunities for than USC. I really crave for those opportunities hence why I want to go to Stern, which I assume will be easier to transfer into than Columbia.</p>
<p>If you are planning a transfer to NYU, wouldn’t it make more sense to post on their forum? If anyone *had *transferred to NYU they would not be likely to be a regular poster on the USC forum - they’d be over at their new school.</p>
<p>wait ***? Wow Berkeley’s DSP seems better than Sterns! I’m going to ask this here because if i post it in the NYU forum i may get biased answers but</p>
<p>Is NYU Stern really that good? How does it compare to USC Marshall? Isn’t USC >>>> NYU? Do you guys honestly think it’s worth transferring from Marshall to Stern? Or is it not much of a difference in terms of getting recruited by banks?</p>
<p>I have no helpful info for you concerning the various schools or rankings, but I do know that MANY college freshman wonder if they made the right choice during their first semester. Especially students like yourself who had wonderful options and had to turn down very enticing opportunities and choose just one school.</p>
<p>Do your best to dive into every opportunity where you are right NOW, and if you think you might be happier and better off elswhere next year, go ahead and submit applications. That way you will have options for next year and won’t feel trapped at USC. Very often the doubts freshman have as they start out intensify at the start of second semester (be ready in January to be unhappy when you return from Christmas break), but then disappear by Spring break when they can’t imagine being anywhere else.</p>
<p>You honestly would probably be having the same doubts regardless of which school you were attending.</p>
<p>Great, JP Morgan for the Asia-Pacific region doesn’t even recruit at USC. There must be sth wrong because doesn’t USC have a strong presence in HK? DAMN IT!!!</p>
<p>USC does have a presence (whether it is strong I dunnoi). Did you check out the GS asia and UBS asia events recently? Have you even gone and spoken to Marshall career services/advising yet?</p>
<p>While you are considering and prepping for a transfer, you should be exploring options here at the same time so you don’t close any doors of opportunity on yourself.</p>
<p>^alamemom has given you excellent advice. I hope you’ll take it. You would likely be having your doubts no matter where you chose to go to school. Try to relax a little; stop looking for the next best thing, at least through the rest of your freshman year; and make the most of everything you have there. It sounds to me like you could really be spinning your wheels, prospecSternie. You’re in a good place. Recognize that wherever else you might be right now, you’d probably be doing the same sort of second-guessing. Stick with what you have for now, and make the most of it.</p>
<p>hmm maybe so, maybe sticking at USC might be a good idea hmm… I mean if I were to transfer my hard-worked GPA would reset, not to mention I heard some nasty stuff about the Stern curve and how that ruins everyone’s GPA there… </p>
<p>Not to mention USC can’t be THAT inferior to Stern though right? I mean we get our fair share of opportunities and I’m pretty sure USC is on par with Stern at least in the west coast right?.. Someone confirm please?</p>
<p>Possible transferee,
You have just been in classes a fairly short time. I think you should definitely go to the Marshall Student Services Office, make an appointment and discuss your situation.<br>
No matter where you graduate interviewing skills, confidence and personality will weigh heavily when you seek a position. It is not all about where you received your degree.
Alumni from the Marshall School of Business have been enormously successful. I suggest you look at Wikipedia and check out the prominent alumni from Marshall.
USC has 17 alumni groups in Asia. Past Prime Ministers of Japan and South Korea are Trojans. Use the search function to find my post regarding noted alumni in Asia.
Take advantage of the opportunities at Marshall. Explore the Bridge Externship program, USC Career Planning and Placement Center, Beta Alpha Psi and Alpha Kappa Psi.
Before moving to Georgia I was involved in the NYC USC Alumni Club. There were many members who held executive positions on Wall Street. Check out their website.</p>
<p>Thanks for your post Georgie Girl, that’s amazing I didn’t know that USC had lots of prominent alumni in Wall Street and Asia. </p>
<p>When I think of the resources I have here at USC, I do feel good about myself, but once I start comparing it to other prestigious business schools like Stern or Haas, I start to get an inferiority complex, like I always have to prove myself. I guess same could be said about Stern, who may probably feel a inferiority complex to Wharton and a couple ivies. I was just thinking that Stern may open up more opportunities for me but I’ll take your word and give it more time. Thanks.</p>
<p>Sternie I’m thinking exactly the same as you (transferring). If you want a Hong Kong perspective, Stern definitely beats USC by far (Big 4, larger companies). Stern will definitely give you more opportunities no doubt. If you are seriously about doing IB or Finance, Stern is the way to go. Problem is can you get in…</p>