looking to transfer to NYU Stern?

<p>Hi, I'm currently a freshmen in USC's Marshall School of Business and am looking to transfer to NYU Stern of Business. I'm just wondering what are the type of stats needed to transfer to NYU Stern?</p>

<p>My HS stats: (I'm from New Jersey)
UW GPA: 3.70
SAT 1: 2160
SAT 2: Math IIc: 750 US History: 720
USC GPA: not yet out but I am doing very well in my classes.</p>

<p>I always thought that NYU was an inferior school in general but 6 of my high school alumnis (4 current seniors and 2 juniors) who went to NYU Stern from my school have/are ALL interned at Wall Street conglomerates and investment banks, and the seniors specifically have already secured job offers from well respected firms (JP Morgan, Barclays and Morgan Stanley). It seems that NYU is not much but their Stern School is very well respected. Yet the alumni from my school who had gone to USC (3 of them) seem to have just interned at much lesser firms around LA, which is very worrying me because I have ambitions for investment banking at Wall Street too. Despite USC being a great school with a great atmosphere (it's amazing here), I'm planning to transfer to NYU Stern after freshmen year.</p>

<p>My questions:</p>

<ol>
<li>Has anyone transferred to NYU Stern before - what were your stats?</li>
<li>I was rejected from NYU Stern but chose USC over UCLA, Boston College and Carnegie Mellon - will this affect my transfer admissions?</li>
<li>Could I transfer to NYU CAS (easier admissions) then internal transfer to NYU Stern?</li>
</ol>

<p>Any advice of this would be much appreciated thanks.</p>

<p>Generally, it has been stated here that the probability of getting into Stern is higher as an entering freshman than as a transfer.</p>

<p>Transferring from CAS to Stern is possible but they are apparently limited. It appears that students with top notch grades at CAS and those who already plan their course work to coincide with the foundational requirements at Stern will have a greater chance of transferring.</p>

<p>With that said, you seem to have had solid standardized scores and grades from H.S. Maybe you were right in their lower range. Now with a chance to prove your work ethic and if, indeed, you have achieved high grades at USC, maybe it will help your application as a transfer.</p>

<p>However, you will have to wait for a Stern and a CAS student to get back to you about your statistics and what they will mean for your application as a transfer to Stern or CAS.</p>

<p>OK, I pulled up this thread which has some very good info about transferring into Stern. Please read the whole thread because there appeared to have been some changes in the prerequisite course requirements in order to be considered for Stern.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/transfer-students/986968-official-nyu-2011-transfer-thread.html?highlight=NYU+Stern+Transfer[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/transfer-students/986968-official-nyu-2011-transfer-thread.html?highlight=NYU+Stern+Transfer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Prospect:</p>

<p>The schools that you turned down to go to USC mean absolutely nothing when it comes to transfer apps. Last year I myself almost considered transferring from Stern to Marshall (Weather, closer to home (as I am from SoCal), etc.). Most people believe that Stern is much better than Marshall, in terms of name recognition and job placement. That being said, there is some rivalry between the two schools, so it will be interesting for you lol. Your stats are on the low end for Stern, which is probably why you didnt get in initially, but do VERY well this coming year at SC, wiggle any connections that you might have, and get close to your teachers to make sure that they can get you a good letter of rec.</p>

<p>wow there is rivalry between Marshall and Stern? I never heard of that, all my friends in cali told me that Stern’s rivalry in terms of the west coast would be Berkeley Haas but is USC Marshall really that good? I can’t tell here, most banks have been recruiting only for middle office/back positions (however our accounting department is doing pretty darn good).</p>

<p>How’s the recruitment like in Stern? Is it really very strong?</p>

<p>haha, well like, it is weird. For Stern kids from SoCal, it is between Marshall and Stern. Haas versus Stern is more accurate if you are talking to anyone outside of SoCal, but when I hear most people talk about the Marshall Stern rivalry, they are usually from Southern California. </p>

<p>In terms of recruitment, we are doing quite well. I know a bunch of seniors who currently have offers with BB’s. There are a lot of recruiting events from smaller banks for IB positions, and lots of F500’s trying to recruit a bunch of people. Pretty much loads of events every night. Also, the Big 4 make their presence known at Stern very well, and give us a bunch of swag and hold really cool recruiting events to try and lure IB hopefuls (Ernst & Young Murder Mystery Dinner!) lol.</p>

<p>woodendynamite, how would you compared Berkeley Haas and Stern? Superior? Inferior? Equal?</p>

<p>I feel as if we trump them in certain respects, and they trump us in others. So for that, and average statistics and stuff, I am going to say we are about equal.</p>

<p>You can’t transfer to Stern from CAS if you were a previous transfer, and I wouldn’t say that NYU is not much. NYU has tons of top 5 national programs, Stern just gets the recognition as opposed to the others due to their ridiculous endowment from alumni. Stern recruitment is pretty strong. You will not see much of it until your junior year however. You can attend the career fairs any of your years but the recruiters won’t pay you much mind at all unless you are a junior or senior. Your junior year there is on campus recruiting, which lets you get some more personal interviews through Wasserman’s career services. You will also get bid points to basically have a guaranteed interview with whomever you choose. A large amount of people I know have serious internships throughout the year which definitely helps as you near graduation since a lot of them have full time offers before they graduate.
Off the top of my head, recruiters that were here a few weeks ago(Credit Suisse, UBS, RBS, JPM, Goldman, Merrill, Macquarie). Stern’s clubs do a lot in terms of networking as well. There are always presentations or panels, and tours to company trading floors.</p>

<p>Stern is probably pretty competitive with Haas in terms of academics but you can’t beat the perks that come with its location.</p>

<p>What percentage of a graduating class at Stern already has full time job offers at their time of graduation?</p>

<p>Does anyone know if it is possible to apply to two schools at once? I am currently a sophomore at NYU and still debating whether to apply for internal transfer to Stern or CAS. I know for a fact that you can create two accounts on embark under different emails, but can you send in applications for both schools?</p>

<p>@thestorm</p>

<p>From what I see, Stern seems to be pretty darn good with job placement. It seems like the upper 30% or so enter investment banking and the other high paying jobs (ex. trading etc.) and the others enter into the Corporate Finance area, and the one who mess up bad enter into F500 firms… Basically if you do well here, the sky is the limit, but if you suck here then… well you will suck. LOL</p>

<p>wow really? Some alumni from my high school in New Jersey all have interned at bulge bracket banks during their summer (3 of them) and are apparently now just chilling for their senior year since they have offers… JEALOUSY!!</p>

<p>@ poojakumar I’m fairly sure you can only apply to one school, but you could ask the admissions office.</p>

<p>@ shuffleace I’m pretty sure there are more areas of finance than just ibanking and corporate…</p>

<p>@ prospecSternie If you read my 2nd post the OCR is really what sets people up for their senior year offers. Just perform well at your internship your sophomore/juniors years and they may keep you on full time.</p>

<p>Shuffle: You differentiate between corp fin and F500’s. Care to explain?</p>

<p>I have to disagree about F500’s being failures. Although it would not be my first choice, I would certainly not say I had failed if I was working at a F500. If one is ambitious, you can rise through the ranks incredibly quickly, with much better working hours, and it can be a platform for other jobs, banking sector included. In banking, one is usually released after 2 years, whereas F500’s can catapult entry level FA’s to managers, directors, and higher up sectors in a matter of years, without ever really doing more than 55 hours per week. The pay can be weak starting (roughly 60k), but as one rises through the ranks, that can grow exponentially as well. An alum that I know has been working for Pizza Hut for about 8 years, and makes a bit over 140k. He is the manager of a certain group, but is perfectly content, has a girlfriend that he can spend time with, and lives comfortably enough. Needless to say, he is happy, and would not regret his choice.</p>

<p>There’s no hard and fast answer for what sort of stats you need to make a successful transfer app. NYU is not a very inferior school. We’re top 35 nationally (I personally consider that a bit of an overrating), but we have Stern and Tisch, 5th and 1st (respectively) nationally of their category.</p>

<p>Sternies are definitely very sought after. I’ll quote Gary Cohn, the President and COO of Goldman Sachs who spoke at an on-campus recruitment event I attended on Wednesday. “NYU is a tremendous source of talent and human capital for us. Those of you who went through a sort of mental self-selection process, who chose to place yourselves in an urban environment, at an academically rigorous institution and near the headquarters of three of the world’s largest financial services firms, two that way (pointing uptown) and one that way (pointing downtown) are the very sort of people we want.” Stern is no joke. Kids who choose to place themselves here do so for a specific reason: attaining success in their career.</p>

<p>If you were rejected from Stern as a freshman, don’t look at that as something that will hurt you but spin it in your essay as a benefit, i.e ‘being forced to go somewhere else led me to realize through experience how much I stand to benefit from the Stern culture instead of wherever-I-am-now’ or something.</p>

<p>You cannot transfer within NYU once you transfer from another school to NYU. Besides, that’s a complete wuss-out tactic anyway, and any Stern admissions rep would see that and frown on it. And the kids would hate you too. Good luck with your app though, I strongly recommend the school.</p>

<p>You should try and maybe transfer to NYU CAS as a math or econ major. Getting into Stern through a backdoor is near impossible.</p>

<p>The kid wants a Stern education, CAS Econ is not the same as going to Stern. You would not be able to do a double transfer anyway, from what I know. Go for Stern, and if rejected, well, Marshall isn’t too bad of a place to be =]</p>