<p>wutangfinancial, was that really necessary? he doesn't need to get a prostitute - it's not like he said he looks like frankenstein's monster and the villagers run screaming from him. I've seen plenty of ugly guys, mediocre looking guys, and average guys with girlfriends - because guess what, not every girl is a 10. There are plenty of average-looking and ugly girls who want boyfriends, who are perfectly nice people. So what if they're not 10s? If you're a 4, can't you date another 4? And there are plenty of girls his height and under - he's only 2 inches short for an average female. Girls are attracted to funny, friendly guys (except for the ones attracted to jerks...ignore them). Just don't be whiny.</p>
<p>"i honestly feel bad for guys who go to college with dreams of getting girls. From what I have seen/experienced, if you were unable to get a gf/bf in HS, your chances didn't magically increase in college..."</p>
<p>^completely false. I know guys who never got girls in high school who dated stunners in college. At a public high school, it's very hard to get girls if you're not an athlete or a bad boy, even if you're good looking.</p>
<p>That said, if you're abnormal looking, then yeah...it's not going to be much different. I still don't think one should completely give up hope, but should set realistic social goals, i.e. don't expect to date super hot girls if you're 5'2.</p>
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<p>I don't think I would even be friends with them, but I can be a shallow, jackass, so there you go.</p>
<p>Maybe you're socially awkward. I don't think anyone cares about height when it comes to friendship. As a matter of fact, you should have an easier time when it comes to looks because you're a guy. Everyone is more strict when it comes to the way girls look. Guys can get away with dressing like slobs sometimes and girls can't at all. A fat girl will have a harder time making friends than a short guy and I've seen plenty of fat girls have friends and boyfriends because they're confident and nice.
I've seen plenty of short guys have friends too. When I was in high school, one of the prom king nominees must have been no taller than 5'5. I was the same height as him in heels and I'm only 5'2.5 My point is that short guys can be popular if they're not insecure and don't have a Napoleon complex.
BTW, I don't know about your face, but if you're able to play competitive Lacrosse in college, you at least have a nice body.
No matter how good looking one is, they will not have any friends if they're crap at socializing.</p>
<p>I may not have any close friends yet, but I'm making progress. Remember that you won't have tons of friends if any at all for awhile, but you might at least make an acquaintance and that's a great start. Good luck!</p>
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<p>Huh? I don't think anyone looks much into things like that unless one is generically distinct or the features make them look stellar.
You don't need to look like a stereotypical anything, it's actually better if you don't because you will stand out and be interesting to some people.</p>
<p>I just find it interesting that the OP wants a hot gf even though he himself hopes the girls don't care about his looks...</p>
<p>i purposely choose ugly friends so when we meet girls, i'm the hottest one!</p>
<p>I honestly think people with height complexes don't get dates because they put off these attitudes of: That person obviously doesn't like me because I'm a certain height, which transform into, Man that girl/guy is a total jerk for not liking me because I'm a certain height, thus all people around their height must be jerks too!
If you are just confident and act NORMAL, you will be fine. I used to be super shy and awkward in HS because I'm tall for a girl (between 5'9 and 5'10) and I thought guys didn't like that. But I've dated plenty of guys in college who couldn't care less that we are the same height. I have several guy friends who are shorter than me, incl. one who is about 5'3" and he gets TONS of girls. The girls he dates are just small like he is, his last gf was about 5'0 even, and the girl he's with now is slightly taller than him, probably 5'4"ish (they are both cute and thin, btw, not monsters). He is a really fun-loving party kinda guy which shows in his personality and girls love that!</p>
<p>FYI, I am not shy at all, and I'll introduce myself to anyone anywhere, and I attempt to make small talk, and DO act confident and let people know I'm a fun loving guy. So what is going wrong? Is it my looks, or are the kids really shallow?</p>
<p>look, I seriously doubt you're the ugliest guy on campus. even if you are unattractive, there are guys just as ugly or uglier who are also probably fat and creepy. so let's say you're mildly unattractive - according to you, you're also outgoing, friendly, and athletic. so either:
a) every single person in your entire college is REALLY shallow
b) you're REALLY hideously hideously ugly and lied about being friendly and athletic
c) you're insecure and not confident and it shows through, and maybe you're uninteresting. </p>
<p>i'm guessing it's C...if it's a or b, there's nothing you can do anyway lol. good luck :)</p>
<p>I am 6 feet in height, decent build (not too muscular but not chubby either), long black hair, and I wear glasses. I am from India by the way (I moved to USA in 2nd grade).</p>
<p>I am pretty shy when it comes to conversations. I won't really say much, but I won't disrespect others for the way they act or look. Out of all the students in my school, I only consider a few (like 10 to 15) people to be my good friends. </p>
<p>I am always on good terms with others. Most people in my school know me as a nice guy because I won an award for my volunteer work. Also, I can play guitar and other musical instruments, and my general love for music is appreciated. 90% of the material I know on guitar is death metal, but most people love to see and hear some super fast shredding. Also, I am vegetarian, so when I go out to eat with my friends, I order "no meat please, just veggies." </p>
<p>All in all, I think that I will be able to make more friends in college. I think a majority of the reason as to why I don't have that many good friends in HS is because I don't party. I don't drink or smoke, and I prefer music (or WoW!) to alcohol. The 10 or 15 "good" friends I talked about also share the same mindset. </p>
<p>Also, does anyone know how I can be more social in college without partying and all that stuff? I mean are there people who actually "live" life?</p>
<p>Thanks and peace :)</p>
<p>Be careful that you're a nice guy and not a 'nice guy' if you know what I mean. Otherwise, get over your shyness? Everyone has excuses and you can stay shy for the rest of your life, sure. But don't whine that you don't have many friends if you don't actually go out, talk to, and meet other people. </p>
<p>And damnit, get hung up on your looks one more time and I am going to start wishing they made a device to kick people in the nuts through the internet. You're turning into InnovativeBoxx, and god knows the last thing we need is another one of those. You got you answer; stop obsessing over you looks, or if you can't, at least obsess over something you can control like clothes or go to the gym (get ripped) and stop assuming that everyone who doesn't feel like having deep conversations with you or dating you is shallow and discriminates against short people. There's a word for this and it's paranoia.</p>
<p>Miss Silvestris, as I said, I will introduce myself to anyone anywhere, be it on campus, in or after class, at a party, and maybe perhaps I try too hard at the parties, where girls think I'm trying to mack. But even when I try to meet people, guys and girls on campus, after class or during, it seems people don't warm up to me. Maybe it could be the way I dress, as at my school, it could come off monotonous, and I dress like that cuz at my HS, kids did too. And to Molly, I did not lie about being friendly and athletic, as I said I'll go up to anyone and talk to them anywhere, and I do wear my lacrosse shirts around a lot which comes from my HS days as a lacrosse player. So what is the problem here?</p>
<p>I think you are right Miss Silvestris. I have to get over that paranoia, and I am gonna change my image in college. I am not a conformist, so I won't act in a fake manner, etc. BTW I do go out with my other friends. I went to a concert in Washington DC last month and I also went on a small photography excursion with some friends in my photo class. The only thing is that I hate when people refer to being social as being a heavy party animal. I hate the whole idea of being wasted, and I prefer an alternative to damaging myself.</p>
<p>When I said I was being shy, I meant something stemming from previous experience. As almost all the kids in my school are preppy and conformists (I don't really care about dress/etc), some of them have tendencies to alienate those who do not act like them. It is frustrating that people cannot appreciate one another. </p>
<p>Last year, I played "Stabwound" by Necrophagist after school. Most people thought that was cool, but then some people just started to act like dicks saying that I was some loser for playing a death metal song. </p>
<p>Also, can you elaborate on the first sentence? I can't comprehend it :(</p>
<p>Yeah, maybe that whole "everyone is a conformist" attitude is hurting you too. Guess what? Everyone is a conformist.</p>
<p>well if you attend my school, you will see how hard it is to be an individual. I know this one girl who moved to my HS in 10th grade. Her whole attitude changed and she lost her sense of individuality just to fit in with the cool crowd. She is a really good writer and can compose some really nice poems, but she gave up on them because it was "uncool." By not being a conformist, I am not being condescending on others, but I am just stating that I want to keep my individuality while being accepted by others into their social niches.</p>
<p>I'm short and ugly and I have no problem making friends. There, I said it.
People clown on me a lot more as a result, but you gotta have thick skin anyways...</p>
<p>Life isn't fair.</p>
<p>I don't care what people say about me so I just move on. I do wish people were more open minded, but then again we are all human beings. I prefer to just get lost in music lol.</p>
<p>"...is it my school, where kids are more superficial"</p>
<p>"....I want .....a relationship with a girl who is not fat or ugly"</p>
<p>lol, maybe your the one thats superficial</p>
<p>Wow you have to stop being so insecure. i'm shorter than you and about average-looking and I had no trouble making friends. It was harder at first since I don't dorm, but by the end of 1st semester I had a group of friends. I'm honestly not even that outgoing...I try to be friendly though. </p>
<p>Optimist - most colleges have a diverse student body, so i'm sure you'll find friends with your interests once you get there.</p>