what if you lie to colleges about ur EC’s?? for example a sport??
<p>you should burn in the 7th level of hell</p>
<p>I'm sure that if you're applying to a school with any dignity and credibility at all, then they will probably find out if you lie to them about a school activity. I mean, if you tell them that you play soccer occasionally or perhaps that you volunteer at a Salvation Army every few weeks they PROBABLY won't be able to tell, but those adcoms are some tricky little things, they are . . . And yeah, if you out-and-out lie, like say you played a varsity sport and didn't, and not just maybe say you did 100 hours of community service when it was more like 75, burning in the 7th level of Hell might be proper punishment.</p>
<p>they can call coaches of your school and clubs and etc. They can check up on stuff. If they do and find out you lie, say goodbye to going to college.</p>
<p>Its not worth it at all, as one or two sports RARELY ever make or break the admission accept/rejects. Mostly its Essays/Recs/Gpa/SAT. EC's is less than like 5% unless its something HUGE like winning the nobel prize.</p>
<p>yea, and burning in the seventh level of hell doesn't sound so hot :)</p>
<p>aww dont scare the girl, she's s3xi, the adcoms will understand s3xi girls dont play sports.</p>
<p>i was jk about lying..i was just wondering, i woudnt do it personaly! damn karma! haha but umm i need soem strong EC's..suggestions?? my school has crappy ones</p>
<p>teh best one to have is research.</p>
<p>what kind of research?? more info pls</p>
<p>like winning ur state science fair</p>
<p>how about helping out the Dalai Lama on tours to increase your karma. :)</p>
<p>s3xigurl: Colleges are on to attempts by students to beef up their resumes with "strong" ECs in order to look better.</p>
<p>What you should do is find an activity that really interests you, and go do it. Could be in school (sport, drama, club, whatever) or out (non-school team, volunteer activity, church group, community activity), or, if you like it and can get in, organized research.</p>
<p>The activity might (I did say "might") provide a topic for one of your essays.</p>
<p>Meanwhile get the best grades that you can, because across the board, the GPA is what most schools consider number 1 in importance.</p>
<p>Lying is for God-unloved, pofolk. The Righteous exaggerate! (and lots of that be going on around here)</p>
<p>FYI my son's GC was called by Wm & Mary to validate his ECs and his course schedule for the first two quarters so I do think at least some schools check up!</p>
<p>Check out this topic in the SAT/ACT Test Prep forum about this same subject. People discussed the different ways adcoms can figure out that you're lying and so forth:</p>
<p>There's also a link to a nice article from USNews about embellishing ECs. </p>
<p>...Basically, if you do it, Michael Jackson will come to your house and sodomize you with a rake. o_O</p>
<p>ACTUALLY</p>
<p>lying is very common. 2 kids from my school lied their way thru high school and their resumes were all lies. colleges are based on the honor system. they dont have the contact information or the TIME to go check up on ANYTHING. one got into yale one got into stanford by lying. its ridiculous. its basically just if u are a good person or not =D</p>
<p>I think the situation is like law enforcement of any kind. For example, lots of people cheat on their taxes. And the IRS has the resources to only audit a tiny percentage of all tax returns. Yet, if you do get caught lying in a tax audit, the penalties could be severe. Hence, an equilibrium is reached where people are restrained (but are by no means completely prevented) from cheating on their taxes, for fear of being audited. There is no way to completely prevent all tax-cheating, but the presence of the audits does restrain cheating to some degree. </p>
<p>Cheating on college apps is also, unfortunately, pervasive. Colleges do check, but not enough to prevent all cheating. And to some extent, I can even understand why people cheat (although I clearly do not condone it). Some people figure, hey, I have no chance to get into XYZ school if I am honest, so why not lie? If I'm caught, I'm rejected, but I would have been rejected anyway if I was honest, so I have nothing to lose. In that sense, I have to admit that there is logic there, although obviously an unethical kind of logic. </p>
<p>I think what a collegs should REALLY do is not only reject anybody who is caught lying, but then contact all other colleges so as to have ALL colleges reject the liar. That would dramatically raise the penalties of lying, and hence serve to restrain it more. No longer would you have people submitting regular applications to normal schools, but then submitting an application full of lies to Harvard on the grounds that they might actually get into Harvard if they're lucky, and if they get caught, they don't care because they figure that they never would have gotten in anyway. Now, if they're caught, not only would they not get into Harvard, they wouldn't even be able to get into a regular school.</p>
<p>Though you know, being able to lie convincingly and get away with it is a skill few posess...</p>
<p>As a random check, a Brown admissions officer called my Physics teacher just to make sure that he actually wrote a recommendation for me.</p>
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I think what a collegs should REALLY do is not only reject anybody who is caught lying, but then contact all other colleges so as to have ALL colleges reject the liar. That would dramatically raise the penalties of lying, and hence serve to restrain it more. No longer would you have people submitting regular applications to normal schools, but then submitting an application full of lies to Harvard on the grounds that they might actually get into Harvard if they're lucky, and if they get caught, they don't care because they figure that they never would have gotten in anyway. Now, if they're caught, not only would they not get into Harvard, they wouldn't even be able to get into a regular school.
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i think that they DO try to find out where you're applying, and inform the other colleges of your cheating. once a school blacklist you, they have the resources to actually find out where else you're applying, and inform the other schools. i know of a person three years ago from my area; his father wrote a perfect recommendation for him, and signed off as his GC. he was caught, sent a letter that he was automatically rejected. he didn't get into ANY of the six schools he applied to, even those where he had a high chance of getting in. our guess is that all the colleges were informed of his misdemeanor.</p>