Major Flaw in SSAT Test Taking System?

<p>So once someone registers they send an "admission ticket", right? What if I gave my admission ticket to someone else, who is "smarter" than me, and he took the test for me as me. </p>

<p>How would this be detected. Is this not a flaw even for the SAT and the ACT?</p>

<p>SATs check for ID, though admittedly this can easily be tricked as well. Of course, there are a lot of things in academia where you could simply ‘cheat’ and for quite a few them, you probably will not be caught. But you gotta ask yourself: can I really live with that?</p>

<p>Hehe I never planned on doing it haha. I was just surprised at how much they regulate the person taking the test (with regard to cheating) but never even make sure that the person is genuine.</p>

<p>The essay is handwritten. If a test taker were to hire a ringer, their handwriting wouldn’t match. The schools receive a copy of the essay, and I’m sure they keep them on file.</p>

<p>If caught, of course, no one would admit you, and they’d rescind your admission.</p>

<p>Principal,</p>

<p>Am I correct in thinking English is not your primary language? If not, here is a simple way to tell whether to use “me” or “I”.</p>

<p>One wouldn’t say “She is smarter than me is smart.”, but one would say “She is smarter than I am smart.” So, in shortening it the same usage applies. Hence: “She is smarter than I.” rather than “She is smarter than me”. Make sense?</p>

<p>Leanid’s right.</p>

<p>Just make certain your stand-in double is aware of this distinction before they take the SSAT/SAT writing tests on your behalf!</p>

<p><<just kidding,=“” i=“” know=“” you=“” would=“” never…=“”>></just></p>

<p>Actually, there are at least three school that my son applied to where everything was submitted electronically. The only sample of his handwriting that they have is from the ssat and his thank you notes. So, if you’re rude and don’t send notes, you could get away with it in that regard, but I still doubt someone like that would be admitted anywhere. Schools don’t base their decisions just on one test score. There is the quality of the writing, the interview, recommendations, etc. A high test score needs to be reinforced by everything else.</p>

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I know your intentions are probably right, but I can’t even begin to say how rude your statement sounds… Even assuming that something I said was grammatically incorrect you have to understand that a) no one is going to check his/her grammar on an internet board and b) one grammatical mistake doesn’t make english a foreign language.</p>

<p>I’m going to go further to say that my grammar in the post to which you were referring is, in fact, correct and more lending to this situation than your, correction.

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<p>This is the evolution of language. Obviously, grammar would dictate one to say “on what are you standing?” as opposed to “what are you standing on?” This usage of language, however, is not common in spoken english. Even the most renown SAT study guides don’t ask you to be in sync with “perfect grammar”. Read the “Than I vs. Than me” section in this link ([Lynch</a>, Guide to Grammar and Style — T](<a href=“http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/t.html]Lynch”>http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/t.html)) and you will see that even Rutgers professors agree that grammar does NOT require the use of this in all but the most formal pieces of writing (it is debated that even in such cases) and is more apt for this situation. </p>

<p>Obviously, my point was not to disprove what you had to say. Rather, I’m trying prove that there is more than one way a native english speaker can write and maintain grammatical accuracy.</p>

<p>Would I be correct in assuming you are close minded or not familiar with American customs? Probably not. Don’t make assumptions based off of ********.</p>

<p>I would hope that the parents of the would-be cheater 8th grader would be involved enough in their child’s life to make sure that it is their own child that takes the test.
Students who take the SSAT are 13 or 14 years old. Wouldn’t a parent need to drive them to the test?</p>

<p>I walked to my SSAT , so theoritically I guess I could have cheated without my parents kmowledge SM but I never would because frankly I don’t know anyone who I could trust to do better than me and it could always come back and get you. I wouldn’t want someone to have power over me like that. On Principals grammar, who cares? I’m very good at english and while theoritically leanid is right in a message board situation, it is possible I’d make the same mistake.</p>

<p>Did anyone else not have seperate desks? We all sat together and I could easily have copied answers (I most certainly did not) should I have wished to.</p>

<p>When I took it there were two people for each desk and I also could have cheated if I really wanted to. (but i didn’t)</p>

<p>Principal,</p>

<p>I am flattered that you took so much time and apparent effort too come up with a number of “authoritative” reasons why I should have let your use of “me” go unmentioned. </p>

<p>I am not going to indulge myself in a refutation of each point you made (some of which is contemptuous, by the way), but the person you quoted who called correct usage “stuffy” simply says that that person is uncomfortable with correctness so he arbitrarily chooses to ignore it. That is a rather unfortunate attitude. Oh dear, too many authorities to answer to…</p>

<p>I do think you are either ignorant of better usage or are testing me. I mean, why would you ever say (as you did at the end of your post) “Dont’ make assumptions based off of…” One’s assumptions (and everything else) is based ON something not “off” something. Come on – evolution of the language indeed!</p>

<p>Tell me, are you shoes polished? If so, don’t bother.</p>

<p>Raven,</p>

<p>“I’m very good at english and while theoritically leanid is right in a message board situation, it is possible I’d make the same mistake.”</p>

<p>Ha, ha, you already have.</p>

<p>leanid, when did “too” become an acceptable particle piece for an infinitive?</p>

<p>Thank you catching that, Mainer. I generally do not bother correcting spelling errors, and mine is usually TOO good TO fault – but not this time! Thanks, again.</p>

<p>Notice, I took no offense at being corrected, unlike so many others on cc whom I have tried time and again to help “see the light”. The adage about “none so blind as those who won’t see” is poignantly apt. Sometimes it feels like a “voice crying in the wilderness”…</p>

<p>wow leanid you really would take the time to check that, like seriously who cares? WOW is all I have to say.
I wouldnt want people to think everyone from bs is like that leanid</p>

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Your not god, stop fooling yourself. No one really cares. Moreover, your correction to my first post was hardly a correction but a revert to a much more traditional english. I wouldn’t have wrote nearly as much as I did, but you assumed that I was foreign because of such a minor mistake. Sorry sister, no one really gives a damn.</p>

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<p>I wouldn’t have WRITTEN…</p>

<p>:) :slight_smile: :)</p>

<p>You MUST laugh at this. I am making fun of the turn this thread has taken.</p>

<p>It’s amazing how mad (and how he corrects others) PrincipalV gets at other people when they say something wrong, but how he doesn’t want to be corrected from his mistake.</p>

<p>Is the pot calling the kettle black? :)</p>

<p>You forgot a conjunction between the main clauses of two sentences! And you’re, not your. Also: ‘…but MORE OF a revert…’:stuck_out_tongue: Haha, jk Principal. I don’t pay attention too much to grammar when I post either.</p>