<p>How accurate is this. Do kids with 36s and 2400s really get rejected in all of the schools they apply to to that high of a degree.</p>
<p>There are only a handful of perfect scorers to begin with. What's to say they are rejected everywhere</p>
<p>for example:</p>
<p>Would a perfect scorer be rejected from schools like:</p>
<p>UNC-Chapel Hill, Wake Forest, Case Western</p>
<p>If it’s not a top 20 university or LAC, chances are, they wouldn’t reject a 2400/36.</p>
<p>approx. 200-300 students annually score a perfect 2400 on the their SAT exams.</p>
<p>I would have a hard time imaging that such students would be rejected from ALL of UNC-Chapel Hill, Wake Forest, or Case Western.</p>
<p>With that said, if a 2400 student applies to Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, and MIT only, it is more than plausible that he/she would be rejected at all those institutions (all the schools have a ~10% admission rate anyway). After a certain SAT score, it’s the rest of the application that matters. What’s the difference between a 2350 and a 2400 on the SAT? Very little. I believe it’s the ones with big egos (or big parents’ egos) who apply to only the top tier schools thinking their perfect SAT score will automatically open doors. Those folks do exist, and that’s what the stories about all the rejections are about.</p>
<p>Grades are usually the most important part of the application. If said applicant has a 2.0 GPA, chances are they won’t be getting into any of the aforementioned schools.</p>
<p>But if we’re talking your standard 3.9+ GPA student with those test scores, then no, I would doubt that applicant would be rejected at any of those schools, barring a severe detriment to his/her application (arrests, plagiarism, etc).</p>
<p>Not from schools like the ones you listed. From Ivy League? Of course. Over half of the valedictorians that apply to Harvard get rejected, read that in some book.</p>
<p>Every single year there are students who neglect to choose Match and Safety schools because they are confident that they will get into the selective schools that they apply to. Every single year some of these students don’t get into a single place that they apply to in the first round.</p>
<p>Some subsequently apply to one or more rolling/late admission school. Some take a gap year and reapply later.</p>
<p>Take some time to come up with some safeties, or at least a decent Plan B.</p>
<p>Yeah but don’t overdo it. I applied to 16 schools(eek) with like 4 safeties that got really really annoying with their frequent calling and whatnot while I waited for my other admissions decisions.</p>
<p>I could see just about any school other than a state school with a formula that heavily weight SATs rejecting a 2400. There are lots of brilliant slackers and high school grades are the best predictor of college success.</p>
<p>Actually a safety school for many of these 2400 kids is also likely to go the rejection route. Admissions offices are now really aware that many students use some schools as safeties, and why would you accept a kid who will almost surely reduce the universitiy’s yeild?</p>
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<p>Valedictorians number in the tens of thousands, while students with scores of 2400 number in the hundreds. </p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/413821-sat-score-frequencies-freshman-class-sizes.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/413821-sat-score-frequencies-freshman-class-sizes.html</a> </p>
<p>(The new figures for class of 2009 will be out very soon.)</p>
<p>monroylobo - would you mind expanding on your post? You applied to 16 schools, with 4 safeties, how were your acceptances? I’m trying to help my daughter pare down her list but so worried that we cut it too much she won’t get in anywhere.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>PhotoOp -</p>
<p>Check your state universities to see if any of them guarantee admission for students with a particular GPA and ACT/SAT score. Find one that she’s guaranteed admission at, and that she’d be happy at, and you probably have the only safety she needs. If money is a bigger issue (or the state Us don’t offer anyone guaranteed admission), look around at the community colleges in commuting distance. One of them might fit the bill.</p>
<p>yeah monroylobo how were your acceptances</p>
<p>Princeton 2009 acceptance rate, HS GPA = 4.0 (on 4.0 scale): 16.9%
Princeton 2009 acceptance rate, SAT = 2300-2400: 26.3%</p>
<p>[Princeton</a> University | Admission Statistics](<a href=“http://www.princeton.edu/admission/applyingforadmission/admission_statistics/]Princeton”>http://www.princeton.edu/admission/applyingforadmission/admission_statistics/)</p>
<p>In other words, your chances of being accepted to Princeton if you have a perfect HS GPA are roughly 1 in 6. Your chances of being accepted if you have SATs in the 2300-2400 range are roughly 1 in 4. Your chances of being admitted as a random member of the total applicant pool (some with high stats, some with lower stats) are roughly 1 in 10. SATs matter, but top SATs do not guarantee you admission to elite colleges and universities. The colleges tell you over and over that grades, strength of HS curriculum, teacher and GC recs, ECs, and essays matter at least as much as test scores. They really mean it. A lot of people on CC obsess over SAT scores, but as one wise admissions officer once told us, “SAT scores matter a lot less than most students think they do—and a lot more than we like to admit.” I take this to mean, roughly, that weak SAT scores may keep you out of the most selective colleges; but strong SAT scores won’t necessarily get you in, not without an overall application that is competitive in all dimensions. My guess is that most of the 1-in-4 2300-2400 SAT applicants who were admitted to Princeton in 2009 also had top grades, rigorous HS curricula, great ECs, great recs, and great essays.</p>
<p>I myself got a perfect 36 and was rejected by 5 of the six top schools I applied to. Now this is just anecdotal evidence – and my grades were a bit substandard for those schools (five Ivies and Stanford) – but I think this really does happen more than you might think. The admissions process really is “holistic” I guess.</p>
<p>I’d also be interested to find what the distinction in acceptances is between people who get a “perfect” score (12 on the essay section for the SAT, and for the ACT a 36 in each section and a 12 on the essay) and those who get a 36/2400 but are imperfect on the essay, or get a 35 in one section, etc.</p>
<p>Not quite a 2400, but Math+Reading I had 1600 and got rejected by Case, just putting it out there.</p>
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<p>Count on it.</p>
<p>People love to assert that “50% of 2400 scorers get rejected from HYPSM each year so scores don’t matter much.” What they neglect to mention is that 90% of < 2200 scorers get rejected.</p>
<p>I’m not actually sure about the true percentages, just made them up to make a point.</p>
<p>There are very few who get a perfect score on a single sitting, but multiple tries could produce a lot more 2400’s than we’ll ever know. Maybe a lot of those kids do get rejected. But I do know a student who had 1600 on M/CR, and was rejected by Yale, Brown, Dartmouth, Amherst, Middlebury and Pomona. Some others with very near that score (maybe 1590 or 1580) rejected by Yale, Rice, Chicago, etc. (They’re all at various HYPS now, but provide a good illustration that rejection does happen!)</p>
<p>let me just give you a succinct answer: some 2400/36 students are boring enough to reject.</p>