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Colleges and Universities A-Z Haverford College
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<p>sorry to add another "can i get in" post but if i'm going to spend 60 bucs to apply, might as well try and get some free info talk is cheap, but your knowledge will be richly valued</p>

<p>i'm a jr now</p>

<p>female 3.8 unweighted gpa on 4.33 scale all honors and ap classes. big competitive regional hs
extemporaneous speaking since frosh year. have competed in states tourney every year and have gone to harvard tourn twice. 8th in state last year, squat this year
mock trial since soph., best witness award last year, attorney this year
winter track 9 10 11 jv (throw shotput)
spring track 9 10 (throw shot and discus)
youth and gov (mock congress like activity) nominated to national conference last year and nominated as an alternate this year. ran and lost contest for youth governor
french math sci natl honor society
foiunder of young dems in my town
i played piano and clarinet up to this year, now I'm only in choir
got into governor's school of public issues
640m, 720w, 800 r on Sats (will retake)
just took french, lit, and us history satiis
and ap eng langcomp and ap us history
next year i'm taking ap gov pol, ap euro history, ap eng lit, ap french, honors global studies, choir, ap calc ab (i didn't get recommended for calc bc unfortunately)</p>

<p>i'm wondering
is the international studies program strong as i have heard
is the chance of going to georgetown, harv somewhere like that for grad work good if you are sucessful
how are english, french programs</p>

<p>i have a great relationship with my speech and debate coach, he's also my eng teacher and a great person to turn to for guidance and or a laugh
will haverfordbe full of teachers like these?</p>

<p>is it close enough to a train that you don't need a car to get there
how is the tri college consortium experience?
thanx</p>

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<p>1) You’ll be “competitive” for HC, but nothing is guaranteed. One word of advice is that HC and the top LACs, in general, want you to show your interest in them… “wear it on your sleeve” as the saying goes.</p>

<p>2) The train stop is a 4-5 minute walk from the edge of campus and it will take you to downtown Philly in about - if I remember correctly - 20 minutes or so.</p>

<p>3) Going to ANY of the top LACs you’ll get that kind of professor-student relationship. However, 70% of faculty do live on HC’s campus which is higher than most. The honor code also facilitates a cozier relationship with faculty.</p>

<p>4) Regarding international programs have you checked out the CPGC web page?
<a href="http://www.haverford.edu/CPGC/index/index.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.haverford.edu/CPGC/index/index.htm&lt;/a>
About 30 HC students are funded each summer to do projects in foreign countries. </p>

<p>5) English is one of HC’s most popular and strongest departments… made spectacular with synergies from Bryn Mawr’s wonderful department.</p>

<p>6) One of Hc’s best features is its relationship with the Mawr. You can really sample the best of both places. For example, as you’re interested in French, you can take your French classes there but still come back to HC for English, HC's unique “laid-back intense” community, ect… </p>

<p>Number of PhDs per 1000 graduates
Academic field: Language and Linguistics
PhDs and Doctoral Degrees: ten years (1994 to 2003) from NSF database
Number of Undergraduates: ten years (1989 to 1998) from IPEDS database
Formula: Total PhDs divided by Total Grads, multiplied by 1000 </p>

<p>Note: Does not include colleges with less than 1000 graduates over the ten year period
Note: Includes all NSF doctoral degrees inc. PhD, Divinity, etc., but not M.D. or Law. </p>

<p>1 Bryn Mawr College 8.0
2 Grinnell College 7.7
3 Reed College 7.7
4 Kalamazoo College 7.0
5 Amherst College 6.5
6 Swarthmore College 6.3
7 Pomona College 5.6
8 Yale University 5.3
9 University of Chicago 5.2
10 Harvard University 5.0
11 Bennington College 5.0
12 Wellesley College 4.8
13 Williams College 4.7
14 Oberlin College 4.7
15 Lawrence University 4.6
16 Carleton College 4.6
17 Mount Holyoke College 4.5
18 Barnard College 4.3
19 Haverford College 4.3
20 Dartmouth College 4.3</p>

<p>Of course, you have to remember this is pretty much before HC got its new and fancy language center and also the numbers posted are multiplied by 1000, so you’re comparing differences of 1/100th-1/1000th... which is round off error. I'm not sure how this fits in with the "quality of language programs" as benchmarked by # PhDs, but the language majors I knew from college, a few got PhDs (2 of which after a Fulbright), but the rest did not and are in international business, law or doing international policy stuff at the UN or RAND... so that's another caution to "PhDs".</p>

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<p>wow thanks a lot
i'm definitely visiting
where do you find those stats online?</p>

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<p>Those are the numbers per 1000 graduates. So, for example, for every 1000 Haverford grads over that ten year period, 4.3 of them got a PhD in languages or linguistics.</p>

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<p>Oh, I forgot to cite my sources... it would be, I believe, I.D... or at least that's where I got this specific ranking. The PhD rankings pop up now and then on CC. Just use the search function and type "PhD production" and "field you want (languages, history, science...)" and these rankings will appear. While I do certainly appreciate I.D.'s effort with calculating these figures, I'm not sure if ranking the schools from 1-->100 is fair. </p>

<p>For example, HC has 15,000 living alums so a "rate" of 4.3 would yield 65 language PhDs in the HC alumni population. Some people would then say, "Well, if HC's language department was "stronger" like... Yale's, then we'd have... 80 language PhDs (rate of 5.3 per 1000 x 15,000)". This is the difference in rankings from #8 to #18. However, is a difference of 80-65 or 15 more PhDs out of 15,000 people significant???</p>

<p>As the fortune cookie says, "Numbers don't lie but they can certainly mislead". And Middlebury, with the reputation of having the strongest language program among LACs, isn't even in the top 20 on this list... so what's up with that??</p>

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<p>thanks for putting it all into perspective</p>