<p>Well, I’m going to be a bio major but I was wondering which is more appropiate? I know the 17 series is specifically for bio students but is it harder than the 16 series? One advisor told me to take the 16 series to get the better grade since it’s easier and another advisor told me to take the 17 series because it fits for my major and says that both 16 and 17 are same in difficulty…Any advice?</p>
<p>Well, if you are a bio major then you have to take mat 17 series in order to get your B.S. degree. you can check your requirement in the course catalog under your major. I'm pretty sure you have to take Mat 17. what major are you specifically.</p>
<p>i looked at the course catalog and it looks like you have a choice between which series you take...</p>
<p>Of course you have a choice! I'm a biological sciences major (though not specifically biology), and pretty much any major within bio will accept 16, 17, or 21. I took 16, which is fairly straight forward, just learning how to do derivatives, integrals, and such (your standard calculus course). 17 has more word problems specifically applying the material to biology, so if you find stuff is easier applied then take that. I know people who have switched between 16 and 17 (16a, 17b, 16c), and some of them think that 16 is easier and some think 17 is easier. It's really up to you-- but if you're sure you wanna do bio, I'd recommend choosing 17. The reason I took 16 is because I wasn't even a bio major at first, so I had no clue i'd be going in that direction.</p>
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<p>ProNovice: Every science major that takes 17 will also take 16, they're used interchangeable within CBS. So I'm not sure who told you that, but regardless if you take 16 or 17, you'll get your B.S.. B.A. is when you don't take math at all...</p>
<p>fooshy: Why would you recommend doing 17 if someone is sure they want to be a bio major?</p>
<p>Kirbies: First, since the material is similar to the 16 series w/ the exception of the word problems, if you're sure you're going to be doing bio and taking math, you might as well get 4 units credit instead of 3, to serve as a GPA booster. Also, people doing quantitative biology/bioinformatics, or evolution and ecology will benefit from the knowledge of how calculus can be applied to the biological field. Some people say applying it to biology makes it easier to comprehend, instead of the bland equations they give you in 16 to differentiate or integrate. Lastly, professors for 17 tend to be consistently better then 16 professors.</p>
<p>If you're not good at math/not sure you wanna do biology, you should consider 16. Why? If you do poorly, it'll be weighted into your GPA less, and if you choose to do a non-biology field, your math credits will still be counted in the event that your major does not accept the more specific 17 series.</p>
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<p>P.S. Most 17 classes also let you use calculators on exams which makes your life (a bit) easier, whereas 16 classes don't let you use calculators at all.</p>
<p>i was looking at the open course list and it seems like all the 16 series calc classes are full. i wanted to take 16a fall quarter as a refresher...should i just wait or should i take 17a...im thinking about being an exercise bio major...</p>
<p>No calculators on the Pre-Cal placement test? What the heck?! lol</p>
<p>I haven't taken MAT 17, but from what I heard from my roomates my 1st year I would rather take the MAT 16 series. The difference in units illustrate the difference in dificulty as well because the more units you get from a course, the more you are expected to study for it. </p>
<p>Good Luck Freshmen</p>
<p>Do yourself a favor and take 16 series.....trust me on this.</p>
<p>^Why? lol...easier?</p>
<p>he's right. take 16 series, trust us.</p>
<p>^Ok, but what's the reasoning behind it? lol Wouldn't grad. schools prefer you take the challenging class versus the easiest one? So that's why I was thinking of taking Math 17...</p>
<p>Go with 17. Personally I took 21 (I'm a bio major) but it seems 17 is tailored for biology.</p>
<p>What do you mean by "tailored for biology"? So you just do word problems that relate to biology? (I remember reading somewhere that you do word problems in Math 17, or are my eyes just playing tricks with me lol?) I am so confused haha. So if I realllllllly suck at word problems should I just take Math 16, lol. I'm majoring in Psychology, and my goal is to go to optometry school. I wouldn't say I'm a pro at math, but I'm pretty good at it...just not at word problems lol.</p>
<p>Looking at the syllabus for 17, it seems like they stress biological examples over calc theory, they also do stuff that's in the 22 series, like some Linear Algebra and ODEs, plus other stuff like discrete math and combinatorics (Don't know how much they actually cover). On the other, hand 16AB is basically high school calc, and C is some multivar and series.</p>
<p>^Is the syllabus available online?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.math.ucdavis.edu/courses/syllabi%5B/url%5D">http://www.math.ucdavis.edu/courses/syllabi</a></p>
<p>but the professors might not follow them exactly, more of a guideline really</p>
<p>^Thanks!</p>
<p>So in order to be placed in a higher math class you have to score 35 or higher, but out of what exactly?</p>
<p>It's 60 questions, so 60?</p>