<p>Dd is not a strong math student so advisor told her to take this 2 cr hr class as a prep for finite. My only issue is that this class doesn't meet the gen Ed or college of arts &science requirements so it really only puts her at 12 credits for the semester. Worried that she is going to get off track of the needed 15 credits per semester before she has even begun.</p>
<p>Thoughts??</p>
<p>Honestly, it’s not a huge deal. All she has to do is take 1 summer school class or 1 semester with 17 credit hours to make it up. There were semesters I only took 12 or 13 c/hrs and others I took 17 or 18. It all evens out as long–as she takes the classes she needs to take for her degree, she’ll be fine.</p>
<p>It’s only first semester of freshman year, don’t worry too much</p>
<p>If you are lucky enough to have a community college near you, just take finite at the cc in summer and transfer the credit to IUB. You will only need a solid C for the credit to transfer. The cc grade will not effect the IUB gpa. A “C” at IUB, however, in finite will wreck your freshman gpa. </p>
<p>I assume you are not in Kelley and need only one math class. You can just take it at cc and be done with it. I know some non-Kelley students who don’t have access to finite in their home state cc’s have had a very difficult time getting finite or calculus out of the way without hurting their gpa.</p>
<p>The Credit Transfer Service has a list of schools that offer finite classes that transfer to IUB.</p>
<p>[Credit</a> Transfer Service: Admissions: Indiana University](<a href=“http://cts.admissions.indiana.edu/]Credit”>http://cts.admissions.indiana.edu/)</p>
<p>We live very close to an Ivy Tech so daughter could take it there. I was also looking at the possibility of her taking D116-D117.</p>
<p>Finite is much easier at Ivy Tech, and transfers for credit to IUB. In summers, finite usually meets twice a week at Ivy Tech. This summer finite was offered at the main campus at Meridian and Illinois streets, and also at the Ivy Tech buildings in Avon, Carmel, and Mooresville. S took it a few years ago at IUB and had to drop it; only W he had at IU. He took it at Ivy Tech the next summer and got an A, which transfers to IUB as credit and IUB gpa is not affected.</p>
<p>So, at Ivy Tech in summer it would be 16 class meetings in eight weeks to get transfer credit for M118; at IUB with D116 and D117 (each meets three times a week for the whole semester), it would be more than 90 class meetings spread out over 32 weeks, for the same math requirement for her program. At Ivy Tech there will be no more than 30 students in each class; at IUB, there will be between 150-250 for most sections of M118 finite if she takes that. IUB environment is very sink or swim; if you don’t understand something, you will be left behind. </p>
<p>“The Finite Show” has finite lectures at this link.
[url=<a href=“http://www.imds.iupui.edu/imds/bb.shtml]IMDS[/url”>http://www.imds.iupui.edu/imds/bb.shtml]IMDS[/url</a>]</p>
<p>What kind of tutoring and extra help is available for finite? We were told by a few people at orientation…and someone on another of the cc threads on finite, that there is plenty of help but you obviously have to seek it out. For example, the tour guide at her dorm said you can sign up for tutoring sessions in the dorm computer lab. We are one of those oos families whose local community colleges do not offer a comparable finite class. And for calculus, they offer a level below 119 and one comparable to 211. Already checked with CTS. Anyway…it will not be easy for dd to take finite elsewhere. Any experience or feedback on the availability and usefulness of extra help or tutoring? DD is approaching this class knowing that she will need to take initiative here. But now I’m getting a little worried. She is DA to SPEA. At least she received Econ 201 and 202 credit from her AP exams!</p>
<p>Newstome…have you looked into taking classes online? I live in California and I was going to take classes online at Ivy Tech but at the last minute I was able to get classes at my local CC.</p>
<p>Thanks for the suggestion, yankees. I don’t think they offer this class online at Ivy Tech. At least that is what someone on these boards said. Maybe that information is not correct? And my daughter is not a fan of online classes for certain subjects. Although not sure how much better a 250 person “live” lecture is!</p>
<p>Yes, you can take the M118 equivalent on-line. However, you do need to take examines at a near-by Ivytech campus. The limit for on-line course is two. I think that you can even take it in next Spring. </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.ivytech.edu/shared/shared_ncompwg/transfer/iu_transfers.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ivytech.edu/shared/shared_ncompwg/transfer/iu_transfers.pdf</a></p>
<p>Thanks, ace550. Although not sure how easy it is to get to local campus to take the exam. Is it accessible by bus? Or walking distance from IUB?</p>
<p>Are you sure about this? I signed up with an admissions counselor from Ivy Tech and no mention was made about me having to come to campus to take test. In fact they waived placement test because I was in California</p>
<p>Has anybody taken Mihai Ciucu for M-118? The grade distributions for his class look good for a math class but everybody on rate my professor is giving negative feedback. </p>
<p>Any info would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>I will call Ivey Tech and get information on exams and onsite requirements. (Or have DD call.). I know she wants to get the math out of the way, but she is coming in with 30 credits and a lot of requirements satisfied. I’m thinking she should drop 118 for first semester, pick up a natural science class (which she will need for Gen Ed requirements). Take the first semester to assess and consider options. She has time. Her roommate is a Kelley DA so I imagine she will be taking 118 first semester…so my DD can possibly get a feel for it. Or, just let her go with her plan…take it fall semester, get it over with, and seek the extra help. I am not a hovering parent, but this class has me worried. However, she doesn’t seem to be too worried! Advice?</p>
<p>My son is taking the on-line M135 for M118 from another Ivytech campus. He has to take the examine at our local campus. Exceptions may be possible per Yankees’ experience. I am not sure if there is a direct bus service from IUB to Ivytech at Bloomington.</p>
<p>Kelley has added four required courses: T175, D270, T275, X271. It is a potential scheduling headache for the coming years. For example, I am wondering why they would not make T175 an 8-week course so that it can be paired with A100. It would be wise to get rid of as many courses as possible via. on-line or summer courses especially if you are majoring in accounting.</p>
<p>DD spoke with advisor at Ivy Tech, and was told she could take exams online. However, the advisor was not too keen on the online version for most students, and said it had a high drop out rate and high percent of sub C grades that would make course credit ineligible for transfer. Advisor graduated from IU a few years ago, and recommended taking 118 this fall at IU, since DD has a fairly moderate course load aside from 118. She really stressed the importance of joining a study group and taking advantage of tutoring sessions. So…DD decided to go for it, but with the intent to put extra effort into it. Thanks all for the suggestions and information.</p>