<p>math= disgusting XD</p>
<p>I took it this year because I felt bad not taking it for a year.</p>
<p>Heathen
:)</p>
<p>T_T -sob- well... we'll see what I end up taking. the problem is I don't RETAIN math. I learn it, do amazing on the test... and it flows righttt outtt... though, math is pretty easy to study for. I found multivar and linear algebra much easier then like BC Calc.</p>
<p>That's because high school multivar and linear isn't AP, so they don't have to worry about any sort of national standard. :p It all depends on how it's taught - multivar and linear at my HS are cakewalks compared to the same classes at Duke.</p>
<p>that's true... </p>
<p>oh well... </p>
<p>I think the standards are also lower for us because we are learning it off a TV and not an actual teacher. I think our schools are too cheap to actually employ someone to teach it. I paid for credit though, but I'm not sure if I should actually take it as credit. From what I've heard I should probably try to take the equivalent of Multivar at Duke...</p>
<p>hopefully I'll have somewhat of an advantage having already taken it before =P</p>
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I paid for credit though, but I'm not sure if I should actually take it as credit.
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<p>But like I said, you won't get credit for it at Duke. You had to have taken the class at an actual college with college students. The most you will get is placement, which you wouldn't need the dual-enrollment credit for anyways.</p>
<p>And again, if you have a good grasp on the concepts, I reallllllly do not recommend retaking 103.</p>
<p>I agree. 103 should only be a once in a lifetime experience. Move up if you can.</p>
<p>Can you take 103 if you've only taken AB, but you feel comfortable with BC content?</p>
<p>You need Math 32, Math 41, or BC credit to take 103. It's hard to be qualified/prepared for Math 103 without a very strong BC background - I had a 5 on the BC exam and still found 103 to be very challenging. </p>
<p>If you have credit for 31 already, you should probably start with 32. Math 41 is also an option - there is more review of AB and the professor (Margaret Hodel) is very good.</p>
<p>But as a word of caution, only take Math 41 if it's being taught by a good prof. That class can chew you up and spit you out its, um, mouth.</p>
<p>So if you simply compare 32 and 41, is there a lot of difference on how well it prepares you for the next level of math classes?</p>
<p>I thought that you could also move up to Math 103 if you got a 750+ on the SATs</p>
<p>^ That's what I thought too. I didn't think that BC was actually required for that class, only recommended.</p>
<p>The Math Department has a fairly extensive site for placement info
<a href="http://www.math.duke.edu/first_year/placement.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.math.duke.edu/first_year/placement.html</a>
and AP credit:
<a href="http://www.math.duke.edu/first_year/ap.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.math.duke.edu/first_year/ap.html</a></p>
<p>QuizQuick - the main differences between 32 and 41, as far as I can tell, are (a) more class time per wek in 41 and (b) 41 goes through the material of both 31 and 32 so you end up with a broader review of the material, but less time spent explicitly on the 32 material. Either one is designed for preparing you for 103, but if you are unsure, Professor Blake is the Gatekeeper of Advice.</p>
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I thought that you could also move up to Math 103 if you got a 750+ on the SATs
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I think that's only for Math 103X, right? I wish to take 103X but I only have a 740 SAT, but I'm sure I'll get a 5 on the BC test (piece of cake). I wonder if they would still let me take the course, since it sounds interesting (and I may decide to major in Math).</p>
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MTH 103X: Honors Intermediate Calculus and Linear Algebra. Description: Similar to Mathematics 103, 104, but more theoretical. Students who have taken 32X are encouraged to enroll. Students continuing from 103X should take 104X rather than 104. This course is continued in MTH 104X. Prerequisites: -none-</p>
<p>Additonal Math 103X Notes:
This course is presented with a more theoretical approach than either Math 103 or Math 103L. There are three conditions a student should meet before enrolling in this course:</p>
<pre><code> 1. The student should have credit for Math 31 and Math 32, and should, of course, know first-year calculus material well.
2. The student should have a Math SAT score between 750 and 800.
3. The student should be strongly motivated to study abstract mathematics.
If a students meets requirements 1 and 3 above but falls a little short of requirement 2, then the student should meet with the teacher of the course to determine if it could still be appropriate to take the course.
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<p>edy_42, you'll probably be allowed to take the course, email the teachers.</p>
<p>I'm pretty set on taking 103, but from what I'm reading in this thread it's hell if you don't have it with Hodel. Heres the problem. Hodel's section in the fall semester is (predictably) already full. The other sections are taught by Levy, Allard, Jafari, Bray, Stern, Katz, Saper, Lee and Pardon. I have hardly heard any of these profs (or grad students, I dont know) mentioned in this thread. Can anyone give me advice on good sections to get into or ones to absolutely stay away from.</p>
<p>I had Hodel, but I think Bray and Jafari are solid teachers as well.</p>
<p>So - professional ethics precludes me from saying anything about any of my colleagues over in the Math Department; I would instead just say that with your Duke ID you can log into ACES at registrar.duke.edu, then go to the schedule of courses, and for each class see the teacher-course evaluations for those instructors who have opted-in to the evals system.</p>