<p>Or Albuquerque to…just about anywhere. </p>
<p>And that’s one nice thing about having a older applicant. She can just take (un)paid leave from her jobs for interviews.</p>
<p>Applications in a gap year with a flexible, app-enhancing, paying job? Just about perfect IMO.</p>
<p>Yeah, trying to convince D2 to ask to do her TFA service on the Navajo or Zuni Rez so she can maintain her residency AND get application brownie points for working with/being culturally sensitive to our Native American population. (But if interviewing out of ABQ is difficult, interviewing from a base out on the Rez is going to be a nightmare—it’s 3-5 hours to the nearest airport–which is ABQ.)</p>
<p>D1’s jobs aren’t exactly app-enhancing…she waitresses at a high end restaurant that both movie people and medical school faculty frequent. (She’s met George Clooney; he tips very well. And he’s short.) But hey! She can recommend a $200 bottle of wine with aplomb.</p>
<p>Her day job is working in the math tutoring clinic at the community college.</p>
<p>my son has an opportunity to work in the area of “rural medicine.” But, he (somehow) thinks people will think he wants to be a vet. LOL kids!!!</p>
<p>Try to get to Dartmouth from Memphis. That was a joy to plan. I think she got in at midnight. Come to think of it, several of her trips had stupidly late arrivals or early departures because she wanted to make it to at least a few of her classes. lol.</p>
<p>So, are the interviews mostly during the fall semester? or both? If you apply early, are you more likely going to get fall interviews? </p>
<p>Knowing this can help a student plan his/her course load for that semester.</p>
<p>BTW… since kids are applying before senior year grades are available, do med schools just not care about those courses?</p>
<p>I came across this thread while I was searching around on CC. The parents on here seem to be so helpful, so I’d like to ask you a question that I have also posted on the CC Premed Forum.</p>
<p>I am in-state in Texas (established resident, no green card, no US citizenship). I missed the UT (Austin) deadline and missed the Texas A and M deadline for scholarships. So, TAMU will be expensive for me…around 22K/yr. (Can I get scholarships after yr.1 that will be around 10k or more? seems very unlikely…)</p>
<p>However, we are in the process of getting a green card and becoming residents of Michigan (long story but it looks very promising, hopefully will get it during yr.1). This is when I realize that ‘Wow, TX has so many medical schools, should I really trade my TX resident status for a Michigan one?’.</p>
<p>The thing is, I will apply to Wayne State’s BS-MD program and if I’m accepted I’d want to attend. So, the in-state Michigan status would made WSUSOM reasonable in terms of price as an in-stater (if I attend, it is a non binding program so I can apply out). Also, I thought that even if I don’t get into that program, I could attend U of M or MSU and pay in-state. There are 3 state med schools in Michigan, so I’d have some options in state.</p>
<p>BUT, is this wise to trade off the Texas resident status? The ONLY way I can keep it is either:
a) whole family moves to texas
b) I attend TAMU (@ 22k/yr)and establish residency for myself as an independent (because as of now my status is depended on Pops who has established due to work, taxes, property, etc.) </p>
<p>OR:
I could attend a Michigan state college, apply to the in state med schools and apply out. Basically, I’m worried that I’m throwing away the opportunity at a cheap med school education (potentially) and having sort of ‘safety’ med schools in state.</p>
<p>I’m very confused and upset that I missed the deadlines and now I am stuck with such a difficult conflict. I have a 4.0, 2300 SAT I as a HS student, so I am capable of doing reasonably well in college.</p>
<p>???</p>
<p>Are you here on a Visa? What type.</p>
<p>Gosh, you’ve also missed some good merit scholarship deadlines at other schools. :(</p>
<p>I have no idea of where/what your family should do about establishishing their residency. </p>
<p>In the meantime, I think you need to find some schools that will give you huge merit for your stats.</p>
<p>What about Rice? </p>
<p>How much can your parents contribute each year for college?</p>
<p>I live in Canada, we just have TX resident status.</p>
<p>Rice requires 2 SAT IIs and the last test date is Dec.4th. I have to take both of mine next month. So, that option doesn’t pan out.</p>
<p>So, would anyone know of schools that will give me huge merit aid? My parents would probably like to contribute 15k tops, maybe a bit more. (They are willing to move to TX btw if I attend TAMU to cut cost and keep status, so TAMU will be about 10k a year, so a viable option)</p>
<p>And if anyone has any idea about where to establish residency please post!</p>
<p>Does Texas have unusual residency rules where an int’l can claim residency when he doesn’t live in the state? How is that?</p>
<p>I think you need to start a new thread and state that you need big merit.</p>
<p>Give your int’l status and your stats. Mention that your family will pay up to $15k per year, so you need at least full tuition.</p>
<p>I’m guessing that you’ll be pre-med, but what will your major be?</p>
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<p>I’m fairly confident that you cannot establish state residency as dependent whose parents live elsewhere. IOW, you will be considered a resident in whichever state your parents reside in no matter whether you attend TAMU or not, so option #2 is non-viable. </p>
<p>Residency requirements for Texas medical schools are defined here:</p>
<p>[TMDSAS</a> Medical: Residency Information](<a href=“http://www.utsystem.edu/tmdsas/medical/residency.html]TMDSAS”>http://www.utsystem.edu/tmdsas/medical/residency.html)</p>
<p>Texas is fairly liberal about letting medical students change their state of residence after finishing their first year of medical school. It’s one of the very few states that allow medical students to become state residents while attending professional school.</p>
<p>Point b) is invalid. The true part about that part is in a), where my parents move to TX. Residency is TX is very flexible. I can assure you that I am an in-stater right now. UT told me a few months ago and we meet all criteria.</p>
<p>So, now here’s my new question which is more relevant to this thread:</p>
<p>Will Texas A and M keep me from getting into great med schools outside of the state of Texas? The obvious answer is ‘no’. But, when I look up applicants on mdapplicants.com all I see from Texas A and M students are Texas state med school acceptances. It’s so hard to even find an OOS acceptance, let alone some private east coast or private midwest acceptance. I don’t even see many acceptances/even applicants to meds like Emory, Duke, and the rest of the Southern great meds.</p>
<p>Why is this? It’s sort of disheartening and what I’ve gained from this thread is that GPA + MCAT are just filters and that the school name has no bearing on the programs that these med schools run to filter…so why the limited acceptances OOS? I see solid applicants (3.8+, 32+) yet very few. </p>
<p>Is it because the TDMSAS app is earlier (I don’t know if it is, just analyzing a possibility)? (so, these students get into Baylor/UT-Southwestern/UT-Houston and call it quits) </p>
<p>Thanks. I’m seriously considering TAMU. </p>
<p>Also, any idea how much I can get at these state schools after yr.1 of undergrad? (scholarship money) I will work my a$$ off for an awesome GPA but I’d like to cut down on cost as well.</p>
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I’d say way fewer than half of the Texas applicants apply to any AMCAS school other than Baylor. My D met many who didn’t even apply to Baylor, just the state schools . These were some of the top students, too. Heck, even Texas kids who went to UG OOS only applied to Texas med schools. I believ the term is selection bias. Texas residents who attend TAMU or UT ain’t really looking to go OOS for med school. Some, yes …but on average? They are just fine with Texas schools. Oh, they may throw an app at Harvard, Penn, Stanford, JHU just for grins. Other than that it’s </p>
<p>Texas is a state of mind
that I have been living in
ya know Dallas is a woman
she’s got cognac in her veins…</p>
<p>Yeehaw!</p>
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Far, far less than you could get as a freshman. Most scholarship money goes to entering students to lure them in and not as a reward for great work once there. There are some exceptions and most of those are departmental awards.</p>
<p>thanks curm! </p>
<p>Yes, I was very very surprised with the applications (see my thread in the premed forum). It was so surprising that these students don’t apply OOS. Some have 3.9+ and 34s and stick IS. I mean, I wouldn’t mind at all if I got into UT-Southwestern or Baylor :P, but I’d still toss out some apps OOS.</p>
<p>I’m just glad it isn’t something more than selection bias like OOS schools not liking texas kids, the schools, etc.</p>
<p>Also, any idea if I can get about 5k out of TAMU after year one? (If I do really well?) Is there anything else I could do like be a prof assistant to get some $$$?</p>
<p>EDIT:
One more question. Does the med school later if I want to be a surgeon? And if so, to what effect? (i’m thinking cardio/ortho/neuro)</p>
<p>Viggy, Texas has UTSW, Baylor, UT-H, UTMB, and UTHSCSA all (usually) ranked in the top 55 or so (although UTMB fell out after the hurricane to “unranked”. I haven’t checked this year.). The two Tech schools and A+M aren’t bad either. You can do anything you want from any of those schools. </p>
<p>So… why is my Texas resident kid at Yale? Well, it’s a good question with quite a bit of (well-documented on cc) history behind the answer. Ignoring the history part of the answer (;)) </p>
<p>1) she believes she wants a career in academic medicine and supposedly pedigree is important. It appears to be one of the few legitimate reasons for spending what she is spending. (And I’m still not completely sure it’s that legimate of a reason. UTSW or Baylor would have been just fine. The slight/tiny/maybe imaginary differences in career outcomes were not enough to sway me to her side.)</p>
<p>2) YSM is a uniquely atrtractive place for her to spend 4 or 5 years. Montessori Med School. IOW, she fell head over heels for the pretty boy. That, combined with the afore-mentioned history, was enough to sway me to her side. ;)</p>
<p>You can match into anything (including all surgical residencies) from a Texas med school. Look at the match lists for the schools. You’ll see.</p>
<p>Also, any idea how much I can get at these state schools after yr.1 of undergrad? (scholarship money)</p>
<p>I doubt you could get much merit from TAMU if you don’t go in as a frosh.</p>
<p>BTW…what was the criteria used to determine that you’re residents of Texas when you’re not citizens and you don’t live in that state? Do you own a home there?</p>
<p>*UT told me a few months ago and we meet all criteria.
*</p>
<p>Who told you? did you get it in writing? If not, I wouldn’t necessarily trust that.</p>
<p>Try to get to Dartmouth from Memphis. That was a joy to plan. I think she got in at midnight. Come to think of it, several of her trips had stupidly late arrivals or early departures because she wanted to make it to at least a few of her classes. lol.</p>
<p>So, are the interviews mostly during the fall semester? or both? If you apply early, are you more likely going to get fall interviews? </p>
<p>Knowing this can help a student plan his/her course load for that semester.</p>
<p>BTW… since kids are applying before senior year grades are available, do med schools just not care about those courses?</p>
<p>I think they care about everything , at least a lttle bit, when deciding who to accept. You list the courses you are currently taking and plan to take. Some applicants are taking pre-req’s senior year and it is important to show those courses. Some folks send fall semester grades as part of an update letter to schools that have ignored them. And, of course, all acceptances are conditioned on the successful completion of your courses in progress. </p>
<p>I’d say most early applicants have most of their interviews in the fall. For my kid it was 2/3 in the Fall.</p>
<p>My kid had all but one interview in the fall, as I recall, and I think most or all of his acceptances came before he received his fall semester grades. </p>
<p>There was a comment earlier in this thread about how you know which schools accept mostly in-state kids. The answer is you must get the MSAR book (at least I think that’s what it’s called). It is the crucial guide for the admission requirements for every medical school.</p>
<p>The MSAR is well worth the reasonable price. We bought it two years running. You can also check with your pre-med advisor, or library, or ask other students for a peek at theirs if you (or your kid) is too early in the process. </p>
<p>I also highly recommend the USNews online version. We bought it two years running, too. Not so much for the rankings, but for the matriculant data it provides.</p>
<p>With just those two tools you can build a list. From that broad list, you can then rule in/rule out specific schools from each schools website and conversations with your pre-med advisor. Many UG schools keep a grid of application results in some form or another.</p>
<p>I will definitely get the MSAR book.</p>
<p>DS2 is only a sophomore but he has all of his pre-med courses done including the “next level” courses because of his AP credits. He has straight A’s in all of his classes. He technically will have senior standing at the end of this semester with 98 credits, but he intends on going to school all 4 years because of his engineering courses and his desire to add Math as a second major (which I’m concerned about…having it as a minor is fine…as a second major…yikes…those 400 level math classes are - well - hard! LOL).</p>