<p>McDonnell wants the ratio to be 25% OOS and 75% IS. Wth? </p>
<p>I didn't even know the ratio was already 29% OOS and 71% IS -- when I got admitted I believe I thought it was firmly 2/3 IS and 1/3 OOS. Can someone update me? I never saw this in the Cavalier Daily nor did I see any large outcry nor listserv emails.</p>
<p>It's not about money. </p>
<p>I would like for once to have international kids who weren't sheltered, naive and unintentionally conceited, or snub cultural attempts to recreate food authentically "because it will never be as good as my maid's".</p>
<p>Years ago, when I was in grad school, I met a student from the Phillipines. I asked her how she liked the US. She said “the toughest part was having to adjust to life without servants.”</p>
<p>That would violate the spirit of the deal UVa made with the state to accept less money in exchange for more autonomy over such things. I believe the understanding was that UVa would keep instate where it was which is 70% as a target. That’s the problem making deals with government.</p>
<p>you should do your research before you go off blasting politicians. Not that there aren’t plenty of things to complain about, but this is not the governor’s plan.</p>
<p>I am told by certain Deans that McDonnell is a very inward-looking person and would certainly be an ally of such xenophobic efforts. I have been told that McDonnell has only made efforts to institutionalise financial aid for deserving, needy international students much harder. </p>
<p>Having seen the goodwilled efforts of many student orgs thwarted because of McDonnell’s election, I can only conclude that he is the enemy of all multicultural students at UVA and that students should bear no restraint in demonstrating our hostility.</p>
<p>I do not mean to malign my prosperous international peers. I know a student from a fairly influential family in the Philippines (and the roommate of one of my close friends) who at times exhibits behaviours that betray her servant-served background. Yet at the same time she is fairly passionate about the state of her country and her countrymen and is an influential leader in a cultural org outside her own. I definitely enjoy their company at times. </p>
<p>YET, I believe Jefferson would have appreciated the idea that particularly talented youths from say, less well-off parts of China, Brazil, India, Russia, etc. would not be shut out of his school due to economic background. </p>
<p>(admittedly I am biased because I would like to meet students who came from the rural parts of China instead of /yet/ another PRC student who went to a rich school in Shanghai. Props to Wuhan though. They produce very passionate and creative intellectuals.)</p>
<p>"I am told by certain Deans that McDonnell is a very inward-looking person and would certainly be an ally of such xenophobic efforts. I have been told that McDonnell has only made efforts to institutionalise financial aid for deserving, needy international students much harder. </p>
<p>Having seen the goodwilled efforts of many student orgs thwarted because of McDonnell’s election, I can only conclude that he is the enemy of all multicultural students at UVA and that students should bear no restraint in demonstrating our hostility."</p>
<p>You couldn’t have said it better. Many of my friends are getting up and walking out during his speech at graduation this spring. He’s an enemy of the University, just look at what how his AG has been attacking academic freedoms at the University.</p>
<p>Guys, this is a state school. This issue has been hashed so many times that you’re not only beating a dead horse, but beating a dead horse who’s owner isn’t listening. McDonnell must answer to his constituents, as Jefferson and his colleagues proposed would happen in a representative democracy. As a tax payer, and as a person whose parents who have paid taxes to VA since 1981, I like knowing that at least some of my dollars are going to help VA students (not just at UVA, but our other fine state schools).</p>
<p>Why exactly should we force open our doors to international students when there are so many people on here going “you had a 4.0, IS, and great ECs, and DIDN’T get in?!?”? What makes an international student so much more deserving than an in-stater? </p>
<p>I’m not trying to bash OOS or international students here, by any means, I know they bring diversity. But IS kids can bring the same amount of diversity.</p>
<p>^^With that type of thinking we will never become a global university. We will remain a mostly regional university like JMU, Tech, GMU^^</p>
<p>PS: “As a tax payer”, that’s a phrase often used to justify one’s opinion. Well, as a VA tax payer (and my parents and extended family) I don’t agree with you so we negate each other.</p>
<p>Why should we become a global university? To bring diversity? My point is that it’s extremely difficult to actually state that an IS student brings less diversity to the school than an international student. I come from a middle class family with struggles and have been fighting tooth and nail since day 1 because I’m a girl in the sciences field. My international student classmate was a spoiled rotten kid who thought it was funny he wrecked his brand new BMW and wouldn’t do any work till the last minute and then whine for help. He also complained he had to go to UVa because no school in China would accept him. I met a guy from middle of nowhere VA and learned what it’s like to live there and make it big.</p>
<p>99% of the rest of VA wants the tax money to stay in state and benefit them. </p>
<p>You can fight for making it equal for OOS and international all you want, but denying IS students a right to attend their own public school is discriminatory. And that’s all I’m going to say to contribute to the beating of the dead horse no one cares about.</p>
<p>Oh, and lay off the hate on VT. I met a more diverse student body there than UVa, at least in engineering. And I knew plenty who were OOS/international. It’s not a regional school and it’s not a joke school. Even implying it just looks bad on UVa students</p>
<p>Thanks for saying what I was going to say about Virginia Tech,shoebox(I think you started out there).It is certainly not a regional school . Son had kids from California,RI,Md, etc. on his freshman floor. When a UVa person comes on a forum like this and knocks VT, it just reinforces the elitist stereotype. Son at VT has almost 3.9 in engineering after 3 semesters but is not interested in trying to transfer to UVa. He is a much more laidback type of guy than older brother.VT is a better fit for him. UVa and William and Mary are not the only great schools in Virginia. We are very lucky.</p>
<p>^
from Dean J: “We are 67% Virginia and will continue to be, but the population increase over the next few years is going to add the same number of Virginia residents as the bill would have brought in.”</p>