<p>I got accepted to International Business in McGill. I wonder if its a good program? Any ideas?</p>
<p>umm reputationally McGill isn't really known for business....it's considered by some to be kinda the joke of the school, though this is based on what i've heard-i don't know the intricacies of the program.</p>
<p>Back when my dad went there, it was known for commerce. Not sure about now, but I'm almost 100% sure that Western has the best commerce school in Canada.</p>
<p>The best Canadian business/commerce programs are the Richard Ivey School of Business at the University of Western Ontario, Commerce at Queen's University and the Schulich School of Business at York University, hands down. I've also heard that UBC has a good program, but I live in Ontario and know little about the school.</p>
<p>Mcgill would be as good as any of the other top business schools of Canada...i seriously doubt it would be a complete "joke" if it is easier to get into the arts faculty ..and many people go to the arts facult hoping to change into business in the second year...do not ask people in these forums as they are almost as clueless as the people asking the questions. go to the mcgill website and check out its placement statics. Recruiters are a good a gauge as any of the program..
the average starting salary of mcgill is higher than york and ubc.. however western and queens are slightly higher usually. You can get all these details on the business school sites
In mcleans (who everyone is quick to say is complete crap) shows mcgill as having the same entering grades as any of the top universities.</p>
<p>the only downside (it seems) is less support however if you can work independently and get a good gpa in mcgill, you will get the same job as a graduate from another uni...</p>
<p>This is just my opinion based on stats etc and i do not go to mcgill however i have done a lot of research and am still deciding on my unis</p>
<p>im not saying that it IS a "joke", and i don't intend to demean the program, but i'm just explaining what i've heard the perception of it is based on what current McGill students have told me. don't shoot the messenger.</p>
<p>ok guys just to put ur minds at rest check this out</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lazard.com/careers/FA-NA-UG.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.lazard.com/careers/FA-NA-UG.html</a></p>
<p>mcgill was the only canadian 1 to make the list...now im sure u can show me 10 other lists where mcgill didnt make it....but my point is mcgill is as good as the top schools and is not that easy to get into...if u plan to leave canada it is the best option and even if u want to stay in canada it wont be bad...if u want a decent job...do not think twice mcgill will get it for u.. if u can do well in it...that is....mcgill is a very good university and if u think it is the rite atmosphere just got thr...academically its not a problem...i think it would make the top tier persnally...</p>
<p>What do you mean by 'kind of a joke' ? Can you elaborate? I'm an international student and I've just got admitted to the fall 2006 of Mcgill Commerse program. It's kind of worrying about that comment 'kind of a joke'. Or should I change my course to engineering?</p>
<p>can the people who keep saying mcgill is so bad for business plz interpret these for me.....</p>
<p>if assuming jobs worked the same as supply and demand.....and mcgill was so bad would thr not be less demand from top companies and thus a much lower average salary...however the results show that they are about the same (ivery and mcgill) .....</p>
<p>it is a gd gauge of the program...</p>
<p>plus it just got 22 million it will only improve....</p>
<p>do not lsn to these ppl..most of them hav nvr left their provence but will yet love to tell us about other universities...unfourtunatly it is only their opinion...</p>
<p>when i said "kind of a joke" i was speaking as someone who does not attend McGill and who doesn't know the specifics of the program. All i know is that by other McGill students, the management faculty is seen as a program that is easy to get into and that is not very reputable.</p>
<p>this is by no means a scientific analysis, lol-just word-of-mouth from my McGill friends and my friends who are interested in business programs and who have therefore looked into the different Canadian business programs more thoroughly than I have.</p>
<p>my brother is majoring in science and minoring in business.. and he says 85% of the students in his business classes are slackers... the other 15% are from different faculties like himself minoring in business as well</p>
<p>yes u are correct. It is easier to get into arts and many people go into arts hoping to transfer to business later however its arts school is more competitive. You make a lot of sense</p>
<p>But if you compare McGill with UT. Which one would you guys go for (Commerce tho)?</p>
<p>Canadian MBA rankings, according to Financial Times
(Out of 100 schools worldwide)</p>
<p>York #18
Toronto #24
Western Ontario #31
McGill #44
UBC #71
Queen's #87
Alberta #98</p>
<p>U of T's Rotman School of Business is known to have a stronger MBA than McGill. Undergrad-wise, the best Canadian business programs are Queen's, Ivey @ Western, and Schulich-and I hear that U of T's business is better than McGill's undergrad as well.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that as someone who is not interested in business, this is not an extremely researched position-just based on what I've heard from friends who are interested in it.</p>
<p>Kaitebee plz do not reply to these commerce posts as i notice you do not seem to know what you are talking about. Why do u want to deter people who are actually considering Mcgill Management when you do not have accurate information. </p>
<p>i agree with switch. go and check the stats online. At the undergrad level there should not be much difference where you go. All these programs are very good. I would say that mcgill is better than u of T for undergrad business. and even better than queens if u plan to leave Canada. </p>
<p>i am goin to America for my undergrad however i was considering Mcgill and when researched it seems quite good. In mcleans it does hav the highest entering averages for commerce, a 90 percent so it must have some pretty smart kids. Queens was 87. however queens places an emphasis on its PSE.</p>
<p>well it's not like i pretended to be using concrete facts, he wondered whether McGill has a good reputation for commerce and i told him what its reputation was to people who know little about the intricacies of the programs. it's not like i acted as though i was the ultimate authority on the situation, and he obviously doesn't exclusively want to go to McGill Management, as you implied, since he asked about U of T as well. also, considering that i'm in canada, i think that i'm fairly able to give an unbiased and (albeit not absolutely TOTALLY informed) localized opinion on the matter. the OP doesn't have to listen to me if he doesn't want to. i'm sorry if i seem to be attempting to deter students from selecting McGill, because i'm definitely not doing it on purpose-i'm actually considering it for next year. but people need to realize that there are other (and yes, even better in some areas if you can believe it) universities in canada.</p>
<p>katiebee ur so queens biased..its not even funny..</p>
<p>just caz ur brother goes queen's doesnt mean u have to call McGill a joke. </p>
<p>Why dont u come and try getting good grades in mcgill commerce....its extremely competative and there is a curve...the average of the class is always around 65%...I know my friends in queens have class averages over 80%....Even if u find the course material easy, you probably wont get much higher than a B...unless ur a genius</p>
<p>Just to clarify...McGill Commerce is actally really hard to get into...u need over 90% (most people i know have atleast a 92) for arts the cut off last year was 88%. </p>
<p>queens commerce is probably better....but the its full of nerds from toronto who do nothing else but study...btw i got into queens commerce by bull*****ing my PSE...i just made up random clubs i was president of..and i still got in...dont bring the PSE into this...</p>
<p>Most people here are not slakers, they are usually extremly smart and thus dont need to study like most people. </p>
<p>The people from other faculties who come to minor in management, usually do really badly (i have a lot of science/engineering kids in my easy management classes fail)</p>
<p>I would say after queens, western and schulich...mcgill is the best of business in canada...its definately better than toronto
rotman school of business is for MBA only...and its way better than mcgill for MBA..tat i agree...but not undergrad...</p>
<p>p.s. i am in mcgill management and i absolutely love it.....the social life here cannot get any better...</p>
<p>although i have heard amazing things about queen's i wouldn't say that i'm necessarily biased towards them-my brother is in arts, not commerce, and the post in question doesn't really discuss queen's as being THE best-i said that it, ivey and schulich were generally understood to be the best for undergrad, which you later agreed to:</p>
<p>"I would say after queens, western and schulich...mcgill is the best of business in canada..."</p>
<p>and since i know absolutely nothing about the marking system/specific difficulty of any of the programs (as i repeatedly conceded in my posts), i totally respect the difficulty of your program. IMO, there are very few "easy" university programs-anywhere.</p>
<p>also, i didn't bring up the PSE-that was jamonanderson, and btw i don't see why you are PROUD of BSing a university application, that is incredibly unethical.</p>
<p>just because you've made some ridiculous posts on studentawards that many people, myself included, have called you on, it doesn't mean that you have to carry on stupid conflicts in here-i don't have any problems with you, especially on CC, where you've made a lot of really calid and interesting posts.</p>
<p>i never called McGill students slackers-i was merely discussing how the program is perceived by the outside, and at no point mentioned the workload or its difficulty.</p>
<p>lastly, i'm sorry if i offended anyone but i honestly was trying to answer the OP's question. i am not at all anti-McGill, but i really am trying to provide a balanced perspective-McGill is the only university on CC that is regulary posted about, and so generally speaking most of the people here are huge fans of it. i just wanted to suggest that there are other really good schools here, but obviously that sentiment is not going over well.</p>
<p>I am not proud of bsing thru my PSE....i just dont think it measures anything...and "unethical" people like me can just get in easily...</p>
<p>I dont even see the why queens has such a stupid thing which counts 50% in commerce</p>