Mckinsey and Goldman Sachs amongs top employers for CSOM?!

<p>Mckinsey and Goldman are arguably the most elite and presitgious firms in their respective fields of Consulting and Banking, and those are the most prestigious paths in Business as a whole. </p>

<p>I’m just curious why these two extremely elite companies are amongst the top emplyers at CSOM, seeing as they are usually extremely competitive for most MBA and HBS graduates. </p>

<p>What kind of jobs do BC kids get at these two firms? Are they mostly just pencil pushing-esque jobs? </p>

<p>I’m primarily interested in working for Mckinsey when I graduate.</p>

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<p>Trust me, McKinsey does not pay those big bucks to have folks sit around and push pencils all day. :)</p>

<p>neither of those firms recruit heavily at BC from what I have seen</p>

<p>I thought McKinsey does almost all of its recruiting at ivies and the like? Also GS doesn’t recruit BC kids nearly as much as other BBs.</p>

<p>This is under the undregrad section</p>

<p>“Below is a list sampling firms that employ Carroll School graduates:”</p>

<p>[Placement</a> Data - Carroll School of Management - Boston College](<a href=“http://www.bc.edu/content/bc/schools/csom/undergraduate/careerservices/placementdata.html]Placement”>http://www.bc.edu/content/bc/schools/csom/undergraduate/careerservices/placementdata.html) </p>

<p>Altria Sales & Distribution
Anchin
Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Barclays Capital
Bloomberg LP
BurgerKing Corporation
Cambridge Associates
Citi Global Markets
Citigroup
Commonwealth Annuity and Life Insurance
Cowen and Company
CSN Stores
Danske Bank
Deloitte & Touche LLP
Deloitte Consulting
Deutsche Bank
Disney
Duff & Phelps
EMC
Ernst & Young
Exeter GroupExtraprise Group, Inc.
FBR Capital Markets
Feeley & Driscoll, P.C.
Fidelity Investments
Fortress Investment Group
FTI Consulting - Forensic & Litigation Consulting
GE Capital
General Electric Asset Management Financial Management Program
Google
ICAP North America
Jefferies & Co.
JPMorgan Chase
KBW
KPMG LLP
LEK Consulting
Manulife Financial/John Hancock Financial Services
McGladrey & Pullen
McKinsey
Moelis and Company
Morgan Stanley
Nielsen
Nomura Securities
Northwestern Mutual Financial Network
PhD in Finance program–University of Texas at San Antonio
PricewaterhouseCoopers
Prudential Capital Partners
Rabobank
RBC Capital Markets
Retail Opportunity Investment Corporation
Sapient Corp
Silver Point Capital
Starwood’s Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Villas
Target
TD Bank
Teach for America
UBS</p>

<p>I would say that list is a little misleading even though I am not pursuing consulting or IB myself (going the accounting route). Goldman and McKinsey might technically “recruit” at BC, but not nearly as much as the firms that truly recruit here. By that I mean, maybe 1 kid a year will go to Goldman from BC, and his father might be a partner there etc. In terms of IB, the firms that take a lot of BC kids seem to be UBS, Citi, Barclays, and JP Morgan. For consulting, from what I have seen, the big players on campus are LEK and Deloitte. Again, I am not pursuing anything related to IB or consulting, but that is what I have noticed from talking to students pursuing those careers and noting which firms come onto campus a lot for info sessions and other various events.</p>

<p>Also note, even the big players on campus like UBS and Barclays will only take a handful of VERY qualified students, whereas at an Ivy they might take double that. Just something to note if you really want to go the IB route as you will need a 3.8 + GPA and top notch EC’s (president of club etc) just to land an interview from one of the firms that “heavily” recruits here. In addition, if you land an interview you will obviously need to know the markets extremely well. For consulting, I have no idea what stats you would need or how many they take per year, but I would imagine you would still need at least a 3.5 GPA.</p>

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<p>Either I’m really tired or I missed the part where it said “amongst the top emplyers at CSOM”.</p>

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<p>Define “handful”.</p>

<p>Also I have not gone through a single recruiting season yet, although my second year BC friends have said a 3.5 with good networking should be sufficient to at least land a solid number of interviews.</p>

<p>When I say a handful, I would say 2-5 per firm per year at each of the firms I mentioned as the top recruiters here. Some might say that’s a handful, and others might say that is more than a handful. To those that say it is more, think about this. There are roughly 500 CSOM kids per year and at least half of them are applying for these positions. So you essentially have 250-300 kids competing for 25 total spots in a good recruiting year. It is VERY competitive. For IB, I would say you need at least a 3.8. For any other industry, a 3.5 should work with solid networking. Remember though, there are other careers in finance you can try for other than IB like GE’s financial management program etc, all of which are great options.</p>

<p>Also I can’t stress enough how important the networking aspect is. You have to get your face out there to the recruiters well in advance of applications for these positions. Just like great networking and low GPA won’t land you an interview, great GPA and no networking will do the same. You have kids with 3.9 GPA’s showing up to all the recruiting events networking like crazy, so you need BOTH the GPA and networking to be competitive with these. That is true for EVERY industry and type of position, although the GPA requirements/minimum become more relaxed for other types of positions.</p>

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<p>Mathematically true. But look at it another way: McKinsey and GS do not even recruit at most colleges. The fact that they even come on campus at all says something about the strength of the students and academic.</p>

<p>Oh no doubt, I didn’t mean to imply that the recruiting was weak here, in fact, it is very strong. I was just trying to point out how competitive IB is no matter where you go and you should have multiple backup plans if that is your number 1 career goal. Also if it is your desired career goal, I would also suggest you research the industry a little more by talking to current professionals etc and then making your decision, rather than just saying I want IB because of the money.</p>

<p>Last that I heard, Bain was the only one of the Big 3 consulting firms that targets BC. This is not to say that BC students can’t get into the other two, but it means that BC is basically guaranteed to have several students go to Bain.</p>

<p>What about any of the hightech companies in Silicon Valley like Facebook, Google, Apple, or Yahoo? I know that alot of it has to do with geography but I was just curious. I know that BC has techtrek so I was wondering if it had any connection with that area? I’m in CSOM and luckilu CSOM has a Computer Science program that has become more and more interesting to me. What do you guys think about the Computer Science program at BC or in CSOM and what about any placement in Silicon Valley?</p>

<p>BC does send some kids to Facebook, Google, etc. Some also start their own tech companies or go to work for more up-and-coming firms like Zynga. Most seem to be Information Systems or Computer Science majors. The only downside to doing Computer Science through CSOM is that it’s really only 5 additional classes. On the other hand, the programs through A&S offer a more in depth experience in Comp Sci.</p>

<p>You can always double major in CS and CSOM IS if you’re in CSOM and are into that type of thing.</p>

<p>Also, BCVC and TechTrek are great promotion tools for the IS department and for tech job placement at BC. I have heard only great things from people who participated in either of the programs. The networking opportunities are phenomenal.</p>

<p>What exactly is IS? Is it just another name for IT? Also one of the school’s I passed on what Lehigh, which holds a specialized degree in Computer Science & Business where you actually graduate with two degrees. Here is an excerpt of the program:</p>

<p>“The College of Business and Economics and the Computer Science and Engineering department in the P.C. Rossin College of Engineering and Applied Science jointly offer the Computer Science and Business (CSB) program. The mission of the program is to provide rigorous computer science education integrated with in-depth business training that prepares high quality undergraduate students with diverse backgrounds for lifelong learning and to assume positions of leadership in the business community. This 135 credit hour degree integrates technology skills in software development with a solid background in business and economics. Deep immersion in both of these areas distinguishes CSB from programs offered by other universities. At the same time it is well balanced with approximately one third of the courses in liberal arts, one-third in computer science, and one-third in business.”</p>

<p>Can I accomplish this at BC? I think part of the deal with this program is that it just requires so many credits, whereas BC only requires 114. </p>

<p>If I were crazy enough to do these many credits at BC would I be able to do something similar to what Lehigh does at BC?</p>