<p>Crazed, thanks again, and I’ll have to send you that message either later tonight or tomorrow afternoon after I’ve had ample time to conjure up a few good questions.</p>
<p>TexasBoy- Miami’s poli sci classes are larger than those at St. Joseph’s (you can browse through their course catalogues online). Miami’s classes are generally capped at 40 with a few capped at 25 and 50, and St. Joseph’s are between 25-35 students). However, if you majored in Diplomacy and Foreign Affairs at Miami, you’d spend time in departments that tend to have smaller classes (for example, upper level classes in Geography have 15-25 students). I really believe that at every school, students create their own experiences. I’m in one of Miami’s larger majors, and there are definitely students who float through 4 years without any sustained contact with professors. However, I’ve been involved with research for 3 years, I received a grant for summer research with a faculty member, and I’ve TAed for 4 classes (technically called a UA at Miami). It’s up to you to initiate contact with faculty members, but most are very accessible.</p>
<p>I’m not familiar with St. Joseph’s at all, but Miami is not a commuter school. Quite a few students go home for 3-day weekends, but a large proportion stay on campus. You are required to leave campus for Thanksgiving and spring break, but otherwise, being an OOS student is not a problem (just over 1/3 of the students are from OOS).</p>
<p>TexasBoy06, my son from Boston, MA has SJU as his top choice now out of some 6 schools admitted to. When we visted SJU several weeks ago, I asked otu tour guide abotu the distribution of students. Out tour guide told me that, sure, there are a lot of Phil, NJ students at SJU, but that he himself was from Indiana, and that he knew students from Seattle, WA, and a couple of other geographies which escape me for the moment. According to [Find</a> College Degrees and Career Programs | Campus Explorer](<a href=“http://www.campusexplorer.com%5DFind”>http://www.campusexplorer.com), the distribution of students at SJU is as follows:</p>
<p>53% come from out of state; students come from New Jersey 29%, New York 5%, Maryland 4%, Connecticut 3%.</p>
<p>I do not have the impression of SJU that it is largely a commuter school, or that students go there only for the classes. One of the things that is attracting my son there is the strong student spirit, and the sense that he will get a full college experience there.</p>
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<p>False. They have no football team.</p>
<p>Does Temple have a football team? 
Rice has a football team, but except when they make it to a bowl, football is sort of a non-event. You CAN have a full college experience sans football. Some students prefer major college athletics, and that’s fine, but football is not essential to many.</p>
<p>Bluelaser, thanks for that link, I had actually been looking for the in state/out of state numbers.</p>
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<p>Yes, yes we do. One of the most improved, most up-and-coming ones too.</p>
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<p>I guess it depends on the person, but I couldn’t. I transferred partially because I couldn’t stand going to a college that didn’t have a football team.</p>
<p>Dion-- you are rather dilusional as Temple started as a commuter school and is still thought of as a comutor school by many people. Also Temple is located in one of the worst ghettos in the USA–not so attractive. Also Temple barely qualifies as having a FB team and the stadium isnt even on campus and the games have 0 atmosphere or college feel. </p>
<p>Miami is better than St. Joes’s both academically and socially. Only attend St. Joes if going to school in a major city outweights the other factors, which would be in Miami’s favor.</p>
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<p>First of all, I dont know who ‘Dion’ is. Second of all, I’m hardly ‘dilusional’. I’m aware that we were a commuter school, which changed around 5 years ago. Yes, I’m aware of our North Philly location, however the school itself is not located in the ghetto. I’ll take North Philly ‘ghetto’ and Center City a few minutes away over crappy Bala Cynwyd.</p>
<p>What do you mean our football team barely qualifies as a football team? I didn’t say we have a top program, but it’s a team that was a few good bounces away from 8-4 last year. No atmosphere? I highly disagree with that. It’s not Oklahoma, Florida or Texas, but it’s certainly a great atmosphere. It’s not on campus, so what?</p>
<p>"then I wouldn’t have turned down UTAustin. "</p>
<p>Unless you couldn’t afford it. That was not the best move. UT blows these two away academically.</p>
<p>Most people look down on Temple in the Philly area. It is simply a state commuter school in the freaking hood. Wow it ceased being a commuter school 5 whole years ago (in your opinion) time to apply to replace Penn in the Ivy League.</p>
<p>Temple FB gets about 10k people in the Linc and it feels like you are at a funeral. I have been to Several FB games over the years and the atmosphere if very poor. Games at Delaware, Lehigh and Lafayette are more fun and engaging than Temple.</p>
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<p>Considering most people who work in Philadelphia went to Temple, that’s far from true, in fact, the school is very well respected. And it’s not simply a ‘commuter’ school, because it’s not.</p>
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<p>We averaged 16,000 last year.</p>
<p>Congratulations to Lafayette for never being relevant in the world of sports. Pretty laughable to attempt insulting Temple…</p>
<p>Wow–16k in the Linc. That doesnt even meet minimum FBS attendance standards.</p>
<p>I didnt say Lafayette was more revelant that Temple is athletics, I said Lehigh, Lafayette and Delaware have a better game day atmopshere than Temple…period.</p>
<p>Keep telling yourself that people In Philly highly respect Temple. Most think of it as a glorified commuter school. Sure Temple has some very strong programs, but overall it still has a medicore rep.</p>
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<p>-I believe 16,000 is the minimum, and considering we were the worst team in the NCAA just a few years ago, we’re doing pretty damn well now.
-Better gameday atmosphere is your opinion. Doesn’t mean anything. We’re FBS, not FCS, so who cares.
-Considering you live in Bethlehem, I dont think you’d have any idea about anything pertaining to Philadelphia, especially how Temple is viewed. I can tell you right now the majority have not heard of Lafayette, that’s for sure. Saying Temple has a mediocre rep in Philly is absolutely laughable. If that were true, there would not be tons of alums in all industries in Philadelphia.</p>
<p>I lived and worked in Philly for several years. If people havent heard of Lafayette its their loss, and the people who matter know of Lafayette.</p>
<p>Of cousre a lot of Temple grads live and work in Philly. Its a large school in the city, and most students are from SE PA. Also Temple has 27k undergrads and 9k live on campus. I doubt many students live in the North Phiilly slums next to campus. One can therefore draw their own conclusions regarding Temple’s status as a commuter school.</p>
<p>Temple does get a lot of respect in Philadelphia. A lot of the Penn kids have internships working side by side with Temple students and/or grads, and I am only hearing positive things. There is a recognition that not everyone can or wants to afford the price of private colleges. Working class mentality/status is very valued in Philadelphia.</p>
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<p>Just as the people who matter know that Temple is a fantastic school.</p>
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<p>I’m not sure that’s true. PA, yes, but not necessarily SE PA, although I am.</p>
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<p>There are no ‘slums’ next to the campus. They are several minutes away and not on campus. I’m not sure the exact number of students who do not commute, but it’s definitely more than 9K.</p>
<p>Your school states 9k live on campus. Temple is a good school, nothing special. You act as if Temple is = to Penn.</p>
<p>My brother goes to Wharton, so I’m well aware of what Penn is/isn’t and what Temple is/isn’t. Temple is not the run-of-the-mill commuter state school you’re acting like it is.</p>
<p>Its ranked in tier 3- what other conclusions would you draw?</p>