<p>I have posted a similar thread, but I was wondering your views. Which school do you all feel would provide the best jobs?</p>
<p>From a purely job recruitment view: Ross at Michigan. Villanova is gaining recognition but Michigan has been one of the top B-Schools for awhile. Now if you are talking about a Econ major that is not through Ross, my view would change slightly.</p>
<p>Compare the job recruitment here:</p>
<p>Michigan <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/07/undergrad/profiles/michigan3.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/07/undergrad/profiles/michigan3.htm</a></p>
<p>Villanova <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/07/undergrad/profiles/villanova3.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/07/undergrad/profiles/villanova3.htm</a></p>
<p>I posted on a similar thread, in which a ton of michigan student posted that michigan econ was better (GO FIGURE). Its in my oppinion that at villanova you are going to be given more options, opportunities, and resources. than a student in michigan econ. If you look at the previous post by irishblues the recruitment figures prove that even though many will say that ross is the "better school" top banks are recruiting just as much at villanova. Taking this into consideration you are going to get a better education in finance at villanova than in econ at michigan. You will be better prepared for interviews and be given better career resources. </p>
<p>If an individual tells you michigan econ its either because they go there, or because they are relying on the historic reputation of michigan vs villanova (historically michigan is the better school). However as of 2007 recruiters, third parties (such as businessweek), and students in your situation are realizing how strong the school is getting. It was referred as a "hidden gem" last year in businessweek. As a previous post in another thread also said, it was ranked as one of the top 25 most connected campuses (based on alumni networking). </p>
<p>Personal Bias aside. Villanova is going to give you the curriculum that you desire to succeed on wallstreet (fixed income, equities, portfolio management courses etc.). At Michigan your going to have to not only learn about it yourself, but you will be taking a backseat in recruiters eyes if you go into econ. I mean lets be honest almost all of those in michigan econ tried to get into ross but didnt, recruiters are not stupid. </p>
<p>This post is from a Villanova student who was accepted to michigan their freshman year, may or may not have gotten into ross, and may have been forced to go into econ.....keep that in mind</p>
<p>Despite my feelings on my previous post, I agree with kbisus. I will explain.</p>
<p>One of the major differences for my decision is the establishment of the school's name. Michigan has been around for awhile but Villanova has just started the notice from major banks that it deserves (key word).</p>
<p>Despite my saying that Michigan may have the upper hand, I will be a high-school senior whose top choice school at the moment is Villanova. I visited the school and talked to students and got the feeling that the school really takes an interest in the students and will do everything they can to help you. That for me was what really turned me towards a smaller, more personal school like 'Nova, compared to a large school like Michigan.</p>
<p>The majority of the time Ross students may be getting higher payed jobs but from what I can see Villanova is making a name for itself and several years from now may be a target school for large banks.</p>
<p>I would never go to Villanova over a school like Michigan, which is MUCH MUCH more known internationally, is more prestigious and better known among recruiters. It is also much harder to get into UM than Villanova.</p>
<p>Econ is also one of the hardest majors at UM so I don't see why going to UM for Econ would not give you a good education.</p>
<p>PSU Smeal and Villanova B-School would be a better comparison. Still, I'd chose PSU Smeal over Villanova B-School.</p>
<p>Are you going to work outside U.S,MightyNick?
I suspect whether"international reputation"makes much sense.</p>
<p>Yes it does. A lot of the top companies are based outside the US. Having an international reputation also attracts better students from all over the world. FACT.</p>
<p>Oh, and Michigan also has a better reputation in the United States.</p>
<p>MightyNick,
-I sent my app late in on rolling admission as a freshman and got into UM. Were not talking about Harvard here, its michigan. Collegeboard says michigan accepts 47% of total applicants. As of Spring 2007 villanova accepted 37%. FACT, as you would say: not harder to get in. Yes I realize its harder to get in out of state, but if u want to talk total number...nope.
- At my sophomore internship, there is a student from Ross business. How did he get the job?, he got his dad to help him. How did I get in, by dropping off my resume. I will agree that Ross still has the better rep but michigan econ, man comon, if you want to learn about finance, learn finance not econ. anyways im pretty sure it was my school and gpa that got me my job so to say that you have some "edge" based on prestige in economics, lets be serious here.
- And finally, man stop posting like a madman on this thread, Everyone knows you think michigan has the better program, and everyone knows your from michigan, you just keep saying the same things over and over again, your barely into your education there how do you know really what hte school has to offer. Ive been to career events, Ive applied and done internships at Villanova, Ive taken finance classes, I'm not going to judge michigans "prestige" or "quality" cause i dont go there. Chill out, you already put your input in or say something constructive</p>
<p>Whatever. Fact is no one knows Villanova outside the North East. I wouldn't go there even if someone paid me.</p>
<p>I went to a 'Nova campus tour 6 days ago and they were talking about the different states that come to Nova. In my tour alone there were 9 different states represented, only three of which were in the NE: New York, Pa (me), and Connecticut. They also gave some stat about being among the schools with the top number of students coming from Ca but I do not remember the stat perfectly so I will not comment on that.</p>
<p>"Collegeboard says michigan accepts 47% of total applicants. As of Spring 2007 villanova accepted 37%. FACT, as you would say: not harder to get in. Yes I realize its harder to get in out of state, but if u want to talk total number...nope."</p>
<p>This means nothing. The schools must have completely different procedures for the admissions process. U-M has a freshman class size of about 5400, Villanova 1600. U-M gets 25,000 applications a year. U-M has the reputation to still produce great incoming classes. I don't think that Villanova's reputation would allow them to have the same kind of freshman classes if they had to fill such a larger class.</p>
<p>Michigan is a school that is internationally known. It is also a huge name in places like New York City and Chicago - you can tell by the number of kids from these locations who come here. I was in New York City in May and standing outside Federal Hall at lunchtime, wearing a University of Michigan shirt. A group of traders, Michigan alums, came up and started talking to me about the school. Having a group of four Villanova alums come up to me on Wall Street? Can't see it.</p>
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<p>I believe my school holds that distinction (or is at least top 5).</p>
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<p>That's fallacious.</p>
<p>Of course, it is an overstatement, but 60% of 'Nova grads work in the NE and the rest (32%) work in the mid-Atlantic states.</p>
<p>It works to 'Nova's advantage, though, 'cause a lot of the big players are in the East.</p>
<p>OP, it is hard to compare UMich CAS with 'Nova b-school; however, both b-schools (Ross and 'Nova) have pretty much the same recruiting pool (looking at BW's stats). I would base my decision on other factors like faculty, class size, competition, and your ability to do well at one or the other. When all is said and done, only the top 50-100 from each school are going to have a selection of the "best jobs."</p>
<p>Wolverines, end of story</p>
<p>Villanova takes the back seat to Ross. I go to VU and have friends at Ross and the name recognition alone goes far. Villanova is creeping up on lists and getting national recognition so banks might start taking notice but I don't think it will ever be the target school for banks that UMich, UVA, or UPenn is. I know that while we may be placing people at MS and GS lots of times it is not front office work (S+T and IBank) moreso middle office and back office type stuff. 3 '07 seniors that I know personally are doing front office stuff for Banks so its not impossible coming from 'Nova.</p>
<p>I know this is 2007 and I am commenting now, but for the sake of people who still would like to know more opinions on this I will state mine.
Here are pretty much the facts:
Business week ranks Ross undergrad as #6 and Nova B-school as #7.(comparable in the rankings).
Villanova is more competitive and selective than Michigan. Barrons ranks Villanova as a Most competitive(competitive courses, students, etc). while Michigan is ranked as highly competitive. Villanova also has an admit rate at 39% and Michigan rate is at 49%. </p>
<p>In terms of overall students who attend…Nova has an avg ACT of 30-31, and Michigan avg is 28-29.
Both are close for business, but I think overall Villanova is better than mich and can get you farther, in terms of job opportunities, with nova having a lot of connections in nyc, philly, boston.</p>