I’m a sophomore at MSU, and I’m currently in Eli Broad, with a 3.95GPA and 30 credits
Even though I have enjoyed my time here at Michigan State, I want what’s best for me in the future, so that is why I am seriously considering Michigan. I know that Ross is extremely difficult to get into, and if I do get in, it would be a no-brainer, however, comparing Michigan LSA (Econ) and Michigan State’s Broad is a little more difficult. So I want you guys’ opinion on which degree would give me better advantage with opportunities along the road - real insight on the degree there would be good, since I know nothing about Michigan.
If it helps, I’m pretty certain that I will get an MBA at some point.
Might as well apply and see what happens. Then if you are accepted, meet with an advisor to see if the transfer would require any additional semesters toward your degree.
Applying to Ross only takes place once per year. Your chances are much better as a Michigan student than as a direct transfer from MSU. I’d apply to LSA for Winter 2017 semester and make sure you have the pre-requisites for admission Calc, Freshman writing, and Econ 101 via transfer credit or taking the class in W17. Either way it may delay graduation for a semester or two.
Try to transfer to Michigan; its Econ dpt is amazing. If you choose to do Ross and get in- just know that Ross is a 3 year program so youd have to be in school for 3 more years (as far as ik)
I have no doubt that the top students at the MSU business school do very well. Ross has been recommended for investment banking and finance but the OP is interested in marketing /communications. The OP could ask advisors in the placement office where the best students at MSU get internships and jobs. That additional year that posters are suggesting the OP spend in undergrad could be better spent getting a graduate degree a few years in the future.
Prestige is always a factor, especially when you’re looking for a job straight of school and have less than 4 years of real world experience.
Business is one of those subjects that pretty much anyone can do (unless its quantitative finance), so prestige is still a greater factor than those in Math, Engineering, Statistics, CS, Physics, etc… (difficulty in skill level is higher). Business related jobs receive more applications per position, so they need to do more filtering to find the right candidate which means a 7 round hiring process is not uncommon at all. STEM majors will rarely require past 4 rounds. The filtering process includes Prestige, experience, GPA etc… if you’re less than 4 years removed from graduation.
MSU is good if you just want to work at mom-and-pop firms and small regional offices. MSU alumni who work in the better quality firms are a minority.
If you’re in-state, there is many more reasons to choose UMich over MSU. People from in-state choosing UMich over Cornell and Brown is understandable because of the costs. Choosing MSU over UMich sounds less practical. Even if actually get into both and chose MSU, very few people would believe you except the idiots in East Lansing.
I talk smack about LSA all the time on here. But MSU is still on a much lower rung than LSA. How can you do well in Business when you can’t even get into the best university in your state?
By graduating with degree at MSU, you are leaving a level of doubt in people minds who have the influence to hire you. Do you choose the pathway with more doors open or less?
Oh for pete’s sake. Michigan State University is more highly regarded in undergrad education that many states’ flagships. A recent ranking puts it in the top 20 (ok, at number 20) for undergrad business colleges in the US. http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-best-undergrad-business-schools/
MSU undergrad business school employment outcomes are reported on their college website.
Here I cut and paste the employers listed by undergrad business majors in 2015. Mom and pop?
3M
Abbott Laboratories Amazon.com
American Red Cross
AmeriCorps
Anheuser-Busch
Ann Arbor Public Schools
Archer Daniels Midland
Audubon
Auto-Owners Insurance
Bayer
Beaumont Health System
Burr Oak Community Schools
Campbell Soup Company
Cargill
Chicago Public Schools
Concord Community Schools
Deloitte
Detroit Premier Academy
Domino’s Pizza
Dow AgroSciences
Dow Chemical
Duke University Hospital
E. & J. Gallo Winery
EduGuide
Eli Lilly
Ernst & Young
ESPN
Ford Motor Company
Fox News
General Motors
Georgia Pacific
Grand Rapids Public Schools
Henry Ford Health System
Honda
IBM
Indianapolis Public Schools
Jackson Public Schools
Karmanos Cancer Center
Kellogg
L’Oreal
League of Chicago Theatres
Lowe Campbell Ewald
Microsoft
National Governors Association
Nestle
PepsiCo
Pfizer
Plante & Moran
PPG Industries
Proctor & Gamble
Quicken Loans
SGS
Shedd Aquarium
Shinola
Sparrow Health Systems
Steelcase
Teach for America
The Henry Ford
The Walt Disney Company
The White House
US Congress
US Congressional Budget Office
USA Hockey
Whirlpool
This is a situation where it really depends on the OP’s goals, and there is no cut and dry answer like @ForeverAlone would have you believe (gotta love his snark on Michigan State too). The assumption that anyone in Broad would not have gotten into LSA is false. In my case, I was accepted as a transfer into MSU Broad and UMich LSA for economics. I decided that Broad would give me a better chance at getting into a leadership development program at a F100 company than an economics degree from UMich would. I had an internship at a F100, received a full time offer for their development program, and accepted an offer at a different F100 (one that @CheddarcheeseMN listed).
If my goal was to work at KKR or Blackrock or something, maybe UMich would have been a better choice. People like to act that a UMich degree will get you into these places based on the name on a piece of paper, when the reality very few undergrads from UMich end up at these places, even less so from LSA. Ross placed like 8 undergrads total at MBB last year. You’re not getting Mckinsey as an econ transfer. The main things that a program provides that will get you a job at a top company out of undergrad are on-campus recruiting and the alumni network (to the extent that you are able to leverage it). I seriously doubt an economics degree from UMich will get the OP to these places without some serious luck and networking (doubt anyone notable recruits on-campus for econ majors, correct me if I’m wrong), and they will be seriously be behind the curve as a transfer competing against literally 500 other economics majors who had a 2 year head start trying to beat the odds and no skills. Not to mention that transfers are somewhat discriminated against in recruiting anyways (speaking from experience).
As far as getting an MBA in the future, the most important factor is work experience after undergrad. Again, Mckinsey et. all would be great, but a development program at a F100, Big 4 experience, etc that are obtainable from Broad are good enough to get you into the Ross MBA program if the rest of your application is good and you can articulate how Ross (or whichever MBA program) will help you meet your goals).
TLDR: Based on your goals, you will most likely not be any better off at UMich, and you will save yourself the trouble of having to deal with the unearned arrogance of folks like foreveralone.
That study you posted is from the Collegiate Employment Research Institute of MSU, they do research on post-grad outcomes across all universities, not just MSU. That study was based on data from 200 universities, not just Michigan State.