<p>For the second time GoBlue, 65% is majority. </p>
<p>“I just proved to you that 84% of Michigan’s student body are NOT from SMALL Michigan high schools. Thus your claim that the top 10% figure is “less meaningful” is invalid. Surely people with your intelligent will understand that.”</p>
<p>GoBlue, in order to prove that, you must also find out how many HSs there are from each county. A county that sends 1000 kids to UMich but with 30 HSs does not invalidate my point.</p>
<p>Several posters have pointed out they come from large high schools. The counties I listed all have large metropolitans like Detroit, Ann Arbor, Jackson, Flint, Kalamazoo, Grand Rapids, Howell, etc.</p>
<p>Since you are the one making this claim, it is up to you to support your claim with facts.</p>
<p>The 10% thing is crap at big high schools. I happen to go to one of those very large high schools. Because of massive grade inflation in non-honors and non-AP classes, getting below a 4.0 drops you to the 15% range because lots of people at my school take fluff classes and easily get As. I had a little over a 3.8 GPA (~3.5 UM GPA), I was BARELY in the top 20%. </p>
<p>And even the GPA is subjective. I had a 3.8 in my school, but a 3.5 according to U of M. Because they only use 2 years, having one or two bad classes can really drop your GPA. I was really sick my junior year, causing my grades to drop. Does that mean I am “relatively stupid” compared to the rest of U of M acceptees? No, it just means GPA doesn’t tell the whole story. If you looked at my ACT, it would put me in the top 25% of U of M students. </p>
<p>Bottom line: Michigan IS a hard school to get in to. It is rather an honor to be accepted and anyone who tells you otherwise is lying or bitter (mind you, I am going to MSU so if anyone shouldn’t like Michigan, it’s me). But, taking OLD stats and calling U of M easy to get into or anything along those lines is just plain wrong.</p>
<p>If 75% of the people there aren’t smart, then WHY DID YOU CHOSE IT?</p>
<p>number 1 = ring of fire?!
maybe not, but both exhibit exceedingly arrogant attitude. jeezz</p>
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<p>Where to begin with this statement. Its class? Its insightfulness? Its sense of perspective and context?</p>
<p>It sounds like you think you don’t want to apply to MI. If this is your attitude, I think not applying is a super idea.</p>
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<p>Well the irony is that he attend Michigan. He bashes his own school. If that isn’t considered something stupid to do, then I don’t know what. But it just senseless to insult a huge group of people at a school, especially when one chose to go to that school and say he “like[s]” it. </p>
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<p>I chose UMich over Harvard but don’t feel the need to act like an (expletive deleted). Why would I? It’s my dream school.</p>
<p>If you’re not being intellectually challenged, you’re taking the wrong classes. Did you know that you can sign up for graduate courses, even as a freshman? They’re amazing…</p>
<p>Anyways, I was humbled my Math 295.</p>
<p>I don’t really see the point of this thread. Bearcats gave us some fun brainteasers, but aside from that, it’s turning into “U of M’s Volatile Future.”</p>
<p>P.S. Bearcats, if you have more brainteasers, problems, and riddles, please make a new thread and share!</p>
<p>I’m not bashing UMich, I’m just trying to say its not hard to get into.</p>
<p>“Where to begin with this statement. Its class? Its insightfulness? Its sense of perspective and context?”</p>
<p>Let’s assume when I say “smart”, I mean academically successful, measured by GPA and SAT. </p>
<p>"If 75% of the people there aren’t smart, then WHY DID YOU CHOSE IT? "</p>
<p>I like the culture and gmc recruitment prospects, not its student body.</p>
<p>squared, rof is way below my league. Liking a school does not meant I can’t point out negatives of the school, where it can improve. Blindly ignore its weaknesses just b/c you like it overall is pretty stupid.</p>
<p>GPA and SAT are good predictors of how successful students will perform in college because colleges would’ve abandoned them if they are not good predictors. Natural forces is at work here. </p>
<p>Many of you who claim that 2.8 does better than 3.8 in college is basing your claim on personal anecdotes. It doesn’t matter if you know someone who was extremely stupid in HS but did well in college. Anecdotes are not statistics. I’m sure for the overwhelming majority of undergrads at UM, students with high HS GPA and SAT outperformed those with lower stats academically at UMich.</p>
<p>Also, for admission, UM’s “average GPA” for accepted students is even less meaningful. Since it only counts 2 yrs rather than 4.</p>
<p>Oh yes when I was in 9th grade I recall I was having difficulty with my decision on which university I would be attending. C’mon already.</p>
<p>pancakes, i would actually prefer it if bearcats kept the brainteasers in this thread. they help drown out number 1’s arrogant nonsense.</p>
<p>i didnt read this whole thread, but:
<p>and 2. get over yourself number1 - you’re not that smart. assuming you take even moderately challenging classes at umich, you’ll realize this pretty quickly.</p>
<p>also, in reference to one of your earlier posts, number1: your high school doesnt even come close to comparing to hotchkiss, just for future reference.</p>
<p>rjkofnovi, decision of which university to attend has nothing to do with performing well academically in freshman year.</p>
<p>umich 2010, glad you admit Umich is not as hard to get into as other top schools.</p>
<p>You have no idea which hs I come from, as I never disclosed it. My HS is on par with AESDCH in terms of placement into HYP and academic rigorousness. Never talk about things you don’t know. Just for future reference.</p>
<p>Number 1, anybody off the street would agree dummy. No one denied that UMich is harder to get into than HYPSM. No one. And if you have any intelligence, you would realize who you are calling stupid. I hope you know that you are bashing your peers. So shut up because no body should be criticizing others and calling them stupid, especially ones that are going to be your peers and attending your school. </p>
<p>Decision of which colelge to attend does affect how well one performs. When a student has his eyes set on a prestigious college, he will work harder than one who has his eyes set on a low level state college. Many students essentially “pick it up a notch” on their learning when they suddenly realize what school they want to go to. </p>
<p>And if you say that your school is smart, then you should have realize that you are bashing your school; you called 75% of your school “stupid”. The students are what makes up of a school. If that isn’t considered bashing, then I don’t know what. </p>
<p>Also if you went to a smart school, you would also learn that career recruitment is available because of the excellence of the students. If the students weren’t smart and were “stupid” there wouldn’t be such recruitment.</p>
<p>Your not above ROF. Your essentially the same as him. Bashing your own school makes it worse than bashing another school. I don’t see how having a slightly lower SAT/ACT when compared to HYPSM in the middle 50% is a negative. Nor do I see that 3.7-4.0 is a weakness (Ivy league schools have pretty much the same GPA). Plus UM has more undergrad schools than Ivy Leagues, each school has different standards. Also you should know that UM accepts a good amount of inner city, low income students because UM wants to give them opportunity.</p>
<p>So honestly, just shut up.</p>
<p>why are you going to michigan if you don’t respect your peers there?</p>
<p>Honestly, you should have just went to HYPSM, since you claim you are one of the smartest students attending U-M.</p>
<p>I think it’s the elite private school mentality that got to him. The general mentality is, and I know this because I have been through it, any state schools not named Berkeley are for dumb asses. Anyone who turn down and ivy (let alone wharton) to go to Michigan is a even bigger dumb ass. That was the vibe I got back then</p>
<p>i don’t get it though since this kid’s not even that great. besides intel there’s absolutely nothing amazing about his profile (is the intel thing good? not too familiar with hs stuff anymore). i mean, bragging about a 2350? really? and isnt science olympiad kind of a joke competition, or am i thinking about something else?</p>
<p>bearcats - i vote we make him answer a really hard brainteaser you give him to prove how smart he is</p>
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<p>Perhaps you’d do better to clarify what you mean by “pretty stupid.” That’s the term you used. Does “pretty stupid” not mean what I think it does?</p>
<p>I think “pretty stupid” to him is considered a 3.9 GPA and a 2100 SAT</p>