<p>As many people here already mentioned, it seems like people confuse Michigan with Michigan State. What makes Michigan State so well-known anyway, over the U of M? Is it that it's actually well-known, or do people just like adding the word State after any state-named college (I know Penn kids get the same response)? Or do people know the U of M after all but just think it's called Michigan State? People ask me if I go to Michigan State, and they didn't know the Spartans, so it can't be the sports.</p>
<p>Michigan State is actually a good school. It's one of the top 25 Public Schools in the country, and if Michigan wasn't in this state, it would actually be higher up on that list. They rank high in many fields, and actually higher than Michigan in many agricultural fields and even in some Business fields (Supply Chain management comes to mind).</p>
<p>Let's be honest. Does anybody know anyone that is going into Agriculture?</p>
<p>I actually know 3 people from my school going into that field, thank you.</p>
<p>What really bugs me is when everyone interrogates me on why I didn't choose Cornell instead. My HS is like a feeder school for Cornell, everyone who applies gets accepted. It's not a "big deal" school. And Michigan is much more well-rounded academically and socially.</p>
<p>But the real point is that college isn't about the college. It's about the student. And it's not all about academics. In any field that you work in, "who you know" can be just as important as "what you know".</p>
<p>Example:
At my intership company (Pratt & Whitney), we have MIT Ph. D's, small engineering school graduates, Cornell grads, international grads, etc. The two MIT grads I know are staff engineers. The guy from the small engineering school in Mass. is my supervisor. Several principal engineers don't even have Ph. D's. And in the company, they really don't care what school you went to, they care what results you are going to accomplish.</p>
<p>And further, most (70% ish) of the interns here got the job because they knew someone in the company. Further evidence that networking makes a big difference.</p>
<p>And it's true, Michigan is a great school in the eyes of recruiters. That's one of the reasons I landed the job. In fact, there are more Michigan interns here than from any other school. Granted, it is a large school, but so is MSU haha.</p>
<p>Anyway, the main point is not to be too caught up with academics, rankings, public opinion, etc...None of that matters. That's only the BARE MINIMUM of what a school will provide you. And it's not a lot. Even at Harvard. What's important is how much further you go.</p>
<p>I know Michigan grads making 75k in Silicon Valley startup companies right after senior year, and they couldn't care less what other people have to say.</p>
<p>On a lighter note: Michigan's rep as having one of the most recognizable and popular fight songs has recently been ranked by SI as where else? #1. The top 5.........</p>
<ol>
<li><p>"The Victors," University of Michigan </p></li>
<li><p>"Anchors Aweigh," U.S. Naval Academy </p></li>
<li><p>"Boomer Sooner," University of Oklahoma. </p></li>
<li><p>"Rocky Top," University of Tennessee </p></li>
<li><p>"Notre Dame Victory March," Notre Dame </p></li>
</ol>
<p>Ahhh yes, all the more reason to hear it over and over again this fall :)</p>
<p>Yeah, the tune to ""The Victors" is pretty catchy.</p>
<p>According to Newsweek, Michigan was one of 25 universities that merits the distinction. Of course, they left out schools like Duke, Georgetown and Northwestern, so I am not so sure how accurate it is, but the recognition is flattering just the same.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14325172/%5B/url%5D">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14325172/</a></p>
<p>they should just post a list along with that. it took me forever to go through all of those pages.</p>
<p>I like that Michigan's on that list...but <em>ick</em> that list...and the descriptions on it..where's MIT?</p>
<p>Let us not forget what this magazine called the Hottest Big 10 School last year....... Ill give you a hint.... its colors are purple and white . :)</p>
<p>MIT, Stanford, Chicago, Cal and probably Duke were left out because they are already well known by the masses.</p>
<p>Yeah, I thought so...but it seems like a really odd ranking system. From the title, I assumed it was going to be big names like MIT, Stanford, Cal, and Duke. (I wondered about MIT because it seemed weird that Olin was on there, but not MIT.)</p>
<p>It mentioned MIT, Calsci, and Stanford as being academic powerhouses in the first paragraph.</p>
<p>Finally... a magazine confirms how wise I was by picking UM over MIT. Thank you Newsweek.</p>
<p>The newsweek article is meaningless space-filler.</p>
<p>Michigan shouldn't be flattered to be listed as a new ivy; Harvard is the only superior ivy. Princeton is about the same and Columbia and Yale are slightly worse. (I don't go to Michigan)</p>
<p>I think it's quite obvious that you don't. If you look at Graduate school rankings, schools like Michigan and UCBerkeley are ranked higher than some Ivy schools in many fields. While I admit that Harvard is still the "ideal" of academia, schools like Michigan, UVA, and Berkeley are still impressive considering that their public institutions. I don't understand why you would call that article "meaningless space-filler". Where are you going to college?</p>
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The newsweek article is meaningless space-filler.</p>
<p>Michigan shouldn't be flattered to be listed as a new ivy; Harvard is the only superior ivy. Princeton is about the same and Columbia and Yale are slightly worse. (I don't go to Michigan)
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<p><em>cough</em> tr0ll <em>cough</em></p>
<p>The guy pays you a compliment and you pounce on him? Classy.</p>
<p>are u talking to me? where was the compliment in danielvojtash's post?</p>