<p>WHY DID THEY VOTE FOR THEM THEN???</p>
<p>bleh…</p>
<p>Just a quick question for all you politicians and social studies majors - Isn’t a socially conservative libertarian the same as a republican?</p>
<p>@MIT: You need to get your stealth parody detector fixed. I was alluding to the way Obama has repeatedly explained that Americans only dislike his policies because he hasn’t communicated enough.</p>
<p>@CPA: Because they though the Democrats were likely to disappoint even more.</p>
<p>@SLM: No, although many Republicans would like you to think that.</p>
<p>DYK?: Every argument by a libertarian always refers back to the Declaration of Independence or Amendments of the Constitution.</p>
<p>ie: The draft should be illegal because it violates the 13th amendment.</p>
<p>Just throwing that fact out there.</p>
<p>^Isn’t that how our laws are supposed to work?</p>
<p>It is. I am not huge on politics, but I consider myself a libertarian, so yes. It is certainly so, however you will find disagreement from non-libertarians on that matter.</p>
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<p>America: better than poor countries.</p>
<p>God Bless America</p>
<p>Obamacare is there so that we don’t have hospitals dumping patients out for not having coverage. I mean…where are our morals/ethics on this?</p>
<p>Many Republicans are Christians, and so I bring this point up: Would not Jesus enact Obamacare if he were here?</p>
<p>Religion aside, what the polls are not showing is that most people LIKE Obamacare. It’s just that some of those people don’t like it because it isn’t going FAR ENOUGH. Look at the polling: </p>
<p>“Among likely voters, 36 percent said they want to revise the law so it does more to change the healthcare system. A nearly identical share — 37 percent — said they want to repeal it completely.”</p>
<p>You have 37 percent that absolutely hate Obamacare, and then the rest, roughly 2/3 of Americans, that either support Obamacare or want it to FURTHER. This is the point we are missing.</p>
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<p>People have a right to take that risk. if they do so, fully aware of the consequences, then that is their problem. We already have medicaid and medicare for people who can’t afford coverage.</p>
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<p>Well, there is certainly an argument to be made that he would tell his followers to shut up and accept whatever the government did.</p>
<p>But no, I don’t think Jesus would have supported a law that gave people permission to rob other people. Obviously I can’t speak for him, but I tend to think he would look at you and suddenly health care would seem like a silly squabble.</p>
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<p>The people who want to go further are the people who want socialized medicine. Socialized medicine would be more defensible than Obamacare.</p>
<p>But it doesn’t matter if most people like it or not. It’s wrong, and it’s outside the government’s rightful area of rule.</p>
<p>Suppose your grocer came to your house and dropped off a big pile of food that you didn’t order, including caviar, pork chops, celery, and pineapples.</p>
<p>And suppose you don’t like celery, you think caviar is an extravagant waste, and you can buy pineapples more cheaply down the road.</p>
<p>Wouldn’t you be angry if the grocer just handed you the bill and told you that the government has decided to make an individual food mandate?</p>
<p>Obamacare is exactly like this.</p>
<p>I am sad. We have a Republican House of reps now and a Democratic Senate… how will anything ever get done?</p>
<p>I think these latest elections showed that the majority of Americans DO NOT want Obamacare.</p>
<p>And HeWhoPwnz, hospitals will NOT throw you out for not having coverage if you are in dire need of care. It is illegal for ER’s not to accept you. My uncle is a doctor, and he says that many of the doctor’s at the hospital he works at will accept patients that cannot afford to pay for the treatment. They are out to help the people. The real problem is the medical insurance companies, but all Obama has done is cause our rates to go up.</p>
<p>^^ The way things have been going, I’m not sure that nothing isn’t the very best thing Washington could do right now.</p>
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<p>Nope, the problem was the economy.</p>
<p>*CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. Oct. 27-30, 2010. N=1,006 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.</p>
<p>“Which of the following is the most important issue facing the country today: [see below]?”
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<p>The economy
52 </p>
<p>The federal budget deficit
8 </p>
<p>Education
8 </p>
<p>Health care
8 </p>
<p>The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
8 </p>
<p>Illegal immigration
8 </p>
<p>Terrorism
4 </p>
<p>Energy and environmental policies
4 </p>
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<p>ER’s aren’t the be all and end all of medical treatment. The idea is to treat people with serious illness before they need to go to the ER.</p>
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<p>Suppose every grocer and every other store refused to sell you food.</p>
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<p>It’s not, but ok.</p>
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<p>People who pay for their medical care can get it just fine. People who can’t pay for it can get medicare/medicaid.</p>
<p>If you mean “suppose grocery stores didn’t want to sell all-you-can-eat plans to people who have a reputation for eating a lot” then I would think that they have a right to do so.</p>
<p>If we want to help people who eat a lot, we can do so by helping them pay, not by helping them rob the store.</p>
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<p>But it doesn’t matter … It’s wrong, and it’s outside the government’s rightful area of rule.</p>
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<p>If enough people want their tax money to go towards helping provide medical care to people, then that’s fine with me. But there is a big difference between providing aid and forcing people to buy/sell things they don’t want to buy/sell.</p>
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<p>Congress passes the best bill they can pass. If you would prefer something else, blame the people that are desperate to block that thing, not the people that would pass it if they could.</p>
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<p>That makes no sense to me. They made a bad bill, and then because of opposition they had to use shady vote-buying tactics to get it passed, so I’m supposed to blame the people who resisted the bad bill in the first place, and not the ones who rammed it through while making it worse?</p>
<p>What I don’t understand is that America expected everything to be fixed in two years. And they want to go back to the Bush-esque ideas? Wasn’t that why we (America) voted for Obama in the first place?</p>
<p>In reality, there will be a crapload of gridlock for the next two years, with little accomplished. sweeeeet</p>