<p>Note that Byerly throws a tantrum and starts making silly, irrelevant comments when his credibility is questioned. Sounds like the behavior of a mature and trustworthy person to me.</p>
<p>Have the number of applications for the rest of HYPSM been released yet?</p>
<p>Not yet, for HYPS, although the MIT numbers have been released. The other numbers should be out within a week or so. Penn, Columbia and Brown have released their RD app numbers.</p>
<p>Oh, and Byerly -- that article about Caltech you quoted is over 20 years old. In an MIT publication!! "Recent", my foot.</p>
<p>:-P Anyway, Caltech's not for everyone, but it is the best option by far for some. (Me, for example. I turned down your beloved Harvard, among other places, to come here, and have never regretted it for a moment.) </p>
<p>I know that in the world you inhabit, "yield" is the only thing that matters. It may surprise you to learn that there are people for whom other numbers matter. (I'll let you get up off the floor now.) Like these: Caltech has the best student to faculty ratio of any elite school and the highest ratio of Nobel laureates to alumni anywhere. Also the highest ratio of Nobel laureates to faculty. </p>
<p>In any case, I don't know what you get out of your attempts to put down a perfectly good school.</p>
<p>As for the question about how cross-admit rates are computed, I'll have a sourced answer (sourced to someone other than the infallible Byerly) come Monday morning.</p>
<p>How exciting!</p>
<p>When I refer to mutual-admit data, I am referring to the responses to our admitted student questionnaire. We don't talk to Harvard (or anywhere else) about mutual admits - before, during, or after the decision making process.</p>
<p>Thanks much, Ben J.</p>
<p>what I feel is that caltech is an intense place and lets face it its only for people who can handle the intensity so obviously who cant even match up to the core curriculum (and thats the majority) will deny their credibility. And people who think MIT is any less intense should think again.. I mean the place has its share of fun and everything but when it comes to working you have to work your ass off if u want to survive in the place and do well rather than barely pass.</p>
<p>arghhh international acceptance rate 8%
im international!!!</p>
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I think it's even less. MIT fills 8% <em>of their class</em> with international students. That's something else than the admit rate, though. I heard something like 3-5%.</p>
<p>I am international, too - good luck :)</p>
<p>I guess Byerly is mistaken yet again</p>
<p>I don't think Byerly is "mistaken" in the slightest!</p>
<p>Total apps: 11,369
Total admits: 1,513 (including waitlist admits)
Total matriculants: 1,009
Total EA apps: 2,965
Total original EA admits: 377
Total deferred EA admits admitted RD: 295</p>
<p>EA pool admit rate - including deferreds: 22.7%
RD pool admit rate - excluding deferreds: 10%
Overall yield rate: 66.7%</p>
<p>Total first-time, first-year (freshman) men who applied - 7608
Total first-time, first-year (freshman) women who applied - 2832 (27%)</p>
<p>Total first-time, first-year (freshman) men who were admitted - 758
Total first-time, first-year (freshman) women who were admitted - 736 (49.3%)</p>
<p>Total full-time, first-time, first-year (freshman) men who enrolled - 531
Total full-time, first-time, first-year (freshman) women who enrolled - 465 (46.7%)</p>
<p>If you have a point please state it, if not please follow Ben's advice and go back down the road.</p>
<p>Just reporting the vital statistics, which may be of interest to potential applicants.</p>