<p>In fall of 2007, I will enter SB as a freshman. I want to take molecular bio as my freshman bio class, tho I haven't taken any AP Bio courses. However, I do have more than a year of molecular bio experience from lab research internships. Is the class hard? Does anyone have any recommendations about teachers or how to prepare for exams or even the class overall? Thanks</p>
<p>If you want to jump into Molecular (BIO 202), you need to have credit for BIO 150, either by taking the class or through AP credit. Also, if you don't already have credit for them, you also need to take Chem I and Calc I (or A) at the same time.</p>
<p>Certainly doable, but you'd need permission. You can ask at Orientation about jumping up a level, but they'll likely advise you into 150. You could also check with the department and see if they'll waive the requirement.</p>
<p>-Chris</p>
<p>Actually Chris, the bio department just reworked the intro course sequence.</p>
<p>BIO 150 is now waived if you've taken high school bio (doesn't need to be AP) and have over a 3 on the math placement exam. </p>
<p>201, 202, and 203 are now 3 credits each because they don't have attached labs anymore, and they no longer have any prereqs besides the aforementioned high school bio and 3 on the math placement. Co-reqs of CHE 131 and calc still stand, though. </p>
<p>The labs are now separate courses (much like the chem department does it) which are two credits each--BIO 204 and 205, which have 201, 202, or 203 as a pre or co-req.</p>
<p>Confusing, eh? :-P</p>
<p>I love when they do things and don't tell us! :) I was going out of the printed bulletin, which had not been changed. The online listing is probably correct.</p>
<p>Can anyone tell me the book that Citovskiy uses for molecular bio? What would be a good head start for the class? Any recommendations on what I should read up on?</p>
<p>Dude, calm down. Molecular bio is one of the intro bio classes. The textbook is the standard Campbell 7th edition.</p>
<p>Is it this book: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/080537146X/ref=olp_product_details/103-7089411-6484608?ie=UTF8&seller=%5B/url%5D">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/080537146X/ref=olp_product_details/103-7089411-6484608?ie=UTF8&seller=</a></p>
<p>yes.<br>
that book is also used in BIO 201 and BIO 203</p>
<p>When taking BIO 202 and BIO 203, what lab classes does one have; 204 and 205? If so, then when does one take Techniques in Molecular and Cellular Bio? Or is that an optional class?</p>
<p>If you have never taken AP Bio before, but score well on the math placement exam, is it possible to be placed into BIO 202? I do have more than a year of molecular bio research experience in a lab, so would that be a possible swayer in placing me into that class. I will take calculus and chem simultaneously, with molecular bio, that won't be a problem.</p>
<p>Take a long, careful look at <a href="http://www.stonybrook.edu/ugrdbulletin/current/pdfs/BIO.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.stonybrook.edu/ugrdbulletin/current/pdfs/BIO.pdf</a></p>
<p>This PDF is your friend. This is the most up-to-date version of the BIO course listings, and the prereqs it lists are the correct ones! As you can see, to take Techniques in Molecular and Cellular Bio, you need to have already taken 202, 204 and 205. It's a 3 credit class all on its own, and it isn't a freshman lab course. 201, 202, and 203 are the intro lecture sequence, and 204 and 205 are the intro lab sequence.</p>
<p>As I've said before, you no longer need AP Bio to place into BIO 202, you can just take it as long as you're fulfilling the co-reqs.</p>
<p>Thank you soooooooooooo much. You truly are the enlightenment of Stony Brook. I hope to meet you one day.</p>
<p>Haha :) I wouldn't call myself "the enlightenment of Stony Brook," but I'm certainly glad I've been helpful.</p>
<p>The current version of the Undergraduate Bulletin has the information to answer most academic questions; I recommend bookmarking <a href="http://www.stonybrook.edu/ugrdbulletin/current/%5B/url%5D">http://www.stonybrook.edu/ugrdbulletin/current/</a> and making it your bible if you want to make the most of the myriad academic opportunities at SBU.</p>
<p>In the meantime, enjoy your summer!</p>
<p>I just did a Stony Brook class search in the solar system for Bio 202 and nothing came up. Does that mean that the class is full? I am an incoming freshman whose orientation will be held on July 19 (I know pretty late). Is there anything I can do or does the class search not mean anything.</p>
<p>Unchecking the box "open classes only" and searching will show you if a class is full or if it's not being offered; in this case, BIO 202 must be full since I know it's being offered. Which means the only way you'll get in is to put yourself on the waiting list and hope people drop or that the department opens up more spots.</p>
<p>I don't know if 202 has an automated online waiting list or if you'll have to go down to CMM/BLL and chat in person with the inimitable Ellen Lopez (bio undergrad director, AKA god) or one of her underlings. If you end up having to go in person, just remember that she really does want to help you but that every person who wants to get into the class has a really good reason for it, so pleading about how your case is ultra super special and important won't do anything but annoy her. You're in the same boat as every other freshman bio major, and I'm sure there are tons of you guys, so unfortunately you may not end up with a spot. Put yourself on the waiting list for BIO 201 too for good measure, since that's another of the intro courses you'll be required to complete as a bio major.</p>
<p>Can I request classes online on the solar system before my orientation date?</p>
<p>My guess is there's a registration block on your account that won't be lifted until orientation, but if by some chance there isn't, sure.</p>
<p>Thank for your advice, I emailed the bio office yesterday and now I'm hoping that something may be done. I am praying like crazy that they may squeeze me somewhere into the class. Regardless, I thank you for all of your help.</p>