Money, Money, Money

<p>Hey guys, I have some doubts about Yale's financial aid policy that I would like to clear up. First off, do the financial aid application and the main application go together? Is it okay to submit them at different moments (ex submitting the common app+supplement first and then perhaps after a month submitting the financial aid form)?</p>

<p>Moreover, does it matter if you are a permanent resident or citizen for financial aid? I also heard that for one to receive financial aid, you must register for selective service after turning 18. I have tried registering but due to an error in which my social security number is not in their database, I have to mail the form to the office in Illinois and as I currently live in India, this will procedure take some time and will be finished probably around December which is a month or two after the Yale SCEA deadline. </p>

<p>I would appreciate a clarification. Thanks a lot.</p>

<p>I assume you are applying SCEA. My answers are based on my reading of and experience with Yale policy. Other posters should feel free to correct me.</p>

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<p>No, there is no need to do this. The applications are physically separate anyway (Common App vs. CSS Profile). But you should meet the Nov. 1 deadline for both of them if you want a provisional estimate of your aid should you be admitted SCEA.</p>

<p>Please note that the estimate is provisional as it is usually based on your preliminary estimates of your 2011 income. It will be revised – up or down – in April (if you are admitted) when your family provides more accurate income and asset numbers after the end of the calendar year (typically by late Feb. or early March). Indeed I think it is only required that you submit an FA application by Nov. 1 if you want this first estimate. If you can live without it until you make a decision in April you can submit your post-year numbers according to the regular admission deadlines. You should make sure, however, that you indicate on your Common App your intention to apply for FA even if you don’t get your preliminary numbers in.</p>

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<p>As far as I know, absolutely not.</p>

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<p>For male U.S. citizens this is indeed a requirement to receive federal and state FA.</p>

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<p>You will want to get this fixed and not just for college applications. It will make your future life very difficult if your SS registration is not problem-free.</p>

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<p>Here is where I am guessing the most: I would not worry about this. Make a copy of your form before mailing it and send the form by tracked mail (if this is available to you) so you can provide proof that it was mailed and arrived at its destination.</p>

<p>(1) To my mind you will have met the requirement that you register simply by mailing the form. That the government takes so long to process it should be irrelevant. (I suspect this is the legal position, too, but don’t rely on me for this.)</p>

<p>(2) You will not be receiving any FA until you go to school next year, so there will not be any potential violation of any law until at least then.</p>

<p>Thank you Descartesz for your swift and extremely helpful reply. A few questions in response to the answers you posted. You mentioned that secret service registration is required to receive aid. But it is only required for FAFSA right? Since the deadline, as written on the Yale Financial Page, for this submission is January 1st, would this mean I have more leeway for the application sent to Illinois to come back and be approved (I estimate that it would come in December). For the other forms, such as the CSS profile, do I need to enter my Selective Service details?</p>

<p>Interesting unintentional error: secret service = selective service</p>

<p>Yale’s regular FA deadline is Mar. 10. ([Yale</a> University SFAS: Financial Aid > Prospective Students](<a href=“Welcome | Student Financial and Administrative Services”>Welcome | Student Financial and Administrative Services)) Jan. 1 is the date that the FAFSA becomes available (you can file it no earlier than this date).</p>

<p>I can’t speak to the specifics of what is required on the various forms regarding selective service registration. I am sure selective service registration is required for federal FA, but I can’t recall if this is enforced in some way on the FAFSA, the vehicle used to apply for federal FA. I also cannot say for sure if the CSS Profile requires it nor how individual colleges regard selective service registration in connection with their own financial aid packages.</p>

<p>All right thanks des. Your responses have been extremely helpful. It is because of people like you that CC is the great community it is in it’s present stage. Keep it up!</p>

<p>Yale will require both CSS Profile and all supporting documents, tax returns, and the supporting docs for that (through IDOC–you send a package of copies of the returns)
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FAFSA (done online and it will need a correct/verifiable social security number, birthdate etc for you, and your parents etc. It cross checks with federal records and their tax returns.
The FAFSA will require you to check the box regarding selective service if you are male.</p>

<p>Check Yale’s website for the deadlines for the paperwork. There are dates for provisional paperwork which are done based on estimates
–and then dates for final paperwork which require all of the verified docs/filed returns.</p>

<p>Thanks a lot fog. :)</p>