@mommdc yes, 18% to be exact.
I’m not saying that less income automatically means less intelligence. I’m saying those states are dirt poor.
@newjerseygirl98 88% acceptance rate?? I could have sworn it was only 79%
I just googled it, you’re right. Maybe they’re getting more competitive, haha. @LBad96
@LBad96 Why is a state being dirt poor something funny?
@newjerseygirl98 regardless, they are VERY average.
@carolinamom2boys that wasn’t meant to be taken seriously…
@LBad96 Jokes are supposed to be inherently funny, your statement was not funny.
@LBad96 Boy are you painting everything with a broad brush. Deep south has a history of racism, so University of Alabama can’t be any good? I suppose your own school has to be bad, being in an LGBT-hating state.
@carolinamom2boys it wasn’t even a joke. I just put “lol” there subconsciously. I think you may be reading too much into it.
@Chardo I also brought up the fact that there have been recent incidents but you know I did say that it wasn’t everyone…and you just did the same thing. Most North Carolinians are strictly against that stupid law. The UNC system just said this week they’re not going to enforce the law. Everyone knows that governor is going to be voted out in November. Better than having a governor going to jail, that’s for sure. And yes, there are some instances where a school’s location can work against it, unfortunately. The UNC system and the state of NC at large will be fine, I can assure you of that.
@LBad96 It looks like I wasn’t the only one to “read too much into it.”
I don’t know how anyone could define any of the Claremont colleges, much less Pomona, as “underrated,” given their acceptance rates. They might not be as popular in the Northeast as they are in the West, but they are widely respected. I don’t think my son was “underrating” Pitzer when he chose New College of FL over it: NCF’s cost of attendance was about $40k less per annum.
Given NCF’s stellar rankings, graduate school admissions, and international scholarship awards, its gorgeous location, and affordability, it is spectacularly underrated. I was amazed that it is not among the most selective colleges in the country.
I am biased, admittedly, but I have to place NYU high on the “overrated” list, outside of some notable departments, and put Temple on the “underrated.” I would have trouble justifying spending $60-70k per year for NYU. I feel the same way about BU, USC, and GWU. They’re all fine universities, but probably not worth the price difference from a good public university.
I find some of the comments regarding Rutgers amusing. We live in NJ, but my sons attended a private school in PA. NJ high school students vastly prefer PSU, despite its inauspicious location, while some of my sons’ PA friends envied them for having RU as their in-stat option, just because it had a lot more going on and better access to NYC, Philly, and the rest of the world. NJ has a pathological inferiority complex. Rutgers is a top-notch flagship university, and has always had world-class Science programs.
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Now, I am in NO WAY suggesting that all white Bama students are racist - that would be simply foolish.
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well, gee, how generous of you.
Why do you think thousands of students of color WANT to go Bama if it’s so unwelcoming?
What % of white Bama students do you think are racist?
What % of UNC-W white students do you think are racist?
What % of the other white students who attend a top 100 univ do you think are racist?
What % of students of color do you think are racist?
This thread is going downhill very quickly. #-o
Overrated: Any state public you’re full pay at (aside from maybe UC Berkeley, U Mich, UNC, UVA and a few others if you can afford it debt-free)!
I live in MA and the number of kids that put them and their families into debt to go to UVM or a mid-tier UC over Umass Amherst because UVM/UC is “cooler” or “more fun” is ridiculous to me.
Unsure how someone can criticize Alabama for being southern/racist when NC is below the Mason-Dixon itself and certainly has its own history with race…
^The love for Penn State for out of state students particularly mystifies me.
Here is my two-cents worth based on personal experiences, but IMHO:
Underrated:
Santa Clara U - Easily one of the top 5 Catholic Universities in the USA. Only now getting the recognition it deserves. It probably needs to reach out to more out of state/Int’l kids to become more diverse and well-known. It is shocking that it does not come to the London Fulbright Fair, while USF does.
Holy Cross - Worcester MA is probably a turn off for kids who are also applying to BC?
U San Diego/USF/De Paul/Fairfield - Not as strong as the above 2, but strong schools in their own right.
U of Scranton - the Curse of Michael Scott??
U of Richmond - Uses Merit money very cleverly to poach high stat kids from UVA/W&M. Doing a great job of increasing diversity. Hiring rock-star professors.
Overrated:
NYU - Basically just a middle of the road state flagship with a £75K price tag but no sports
Villanova - A mediocre preprofessional regional university with nonintellectual students and shockingly poor diversity for an East School private university.
Northeastern - It’s all about the Co-op!
@woogzmama ehh. I wouldn’t call Rutgers underrated or top-notch by any means tbh. It may have access to major cities, but its own surrounding area isn’t much to write home about at all. NJ students prefer PSU because of its high school spirit, great alumni network, and actual decent sports programs, among other things. Although considering the crazy cost, it is a notoriously poor deal without FA, so it qualifies as overrated to me.
Glad to see others are agreeing with me regarding Santa Clara, UScranton, USF, NYU and Northeastern! And I agree with comments made regarding NCF and Villanova as well (@londondad could replace comments about Nova with Quinnipiac and Hofstra tbh). Villanova is only heralded because it’s in the Northeast tbh.
@londondad, I agree with you that NYU tends to be overrated outside of a few of its elite schools (as well as about the other overrated ones you have), but note that it isn’t a flagship.
What’s really interesting to me is how, even though, internationally, some American schools that are true Ivy-equivalents may be unknown/underrated (which is understandable; how many Americans know that Warwick and UCL are City targets and UCL and Manchester are research powerhouses, for instance), NYU, BU, and UCLA seem to be rated higher abroad than by Americans. UCLA at least is one of the top unis in the world in research rankings (though their undergrad output isn’t on par with Cal/UMich/UVa). But overseas, NYU (and not just Tisch, Stern, and Courant) seems to be considered an Ivy-equivalent these days and there was one person from Italy who was worried about choosing Northwestern over BU because he thought BU was more prestigious.
I do agree that Seton Hall is overrated(I think it is because of their D1 sports).
The Net Price(Price after financial aid/What a student would realistically pay) for Seton Hall is around $30K-$40K
The high acceptance rate is most likely to cover their admissions yield.
I still would recommended Rutgers Newark,Rowan,Ramapo,Stockton,Montclair, & Rutgers Camden over Seton Hall for In-State students, these schools are similar academically with a much lower net price tag & better value(10K-30K) vs Seton(30K-50K)
If it’s highly ranked yet relatively unknown, wouldn’t that lend credence to the argument that it is in fact underrated? Significantly?
Given NJ high school students’ irrational attitude, Rutgers is clearly underrated.
@londondad, NYU isn’t overrated when it comes to their acting and film programs. Both considered elite in terms of admissions and in terms of the opportunities it gives its students.
And if the student’s primary goal is to get a well-paying job after graduation, Northeastern wouldn’t be considered overrated. I know kids who stepped into management-level, $80K/year jobs right out of NEU thanks to their co-op. My daughter went to Northeastern and did all her co-ops at a Harvard research lab. Her recommendation letters for grad school and work came from Harvard faculty. Not bad for a kiddo who went to an underrated school 