<p>brdpun...i dont know what you mean by spoiled rich kid but that just goes to show you know nothing about CCCs and you have no place discussing this issue</p>
<p>THATS JUST HOW IT WORKS...this is our system, love it or hate it, i couldn't care less.</p>
<p>you know what? why the hell do you have the privalege of living in the US? there are millions of hardworking people that deserve to live in the US more than you...but you know what, you didn't do ANYTHING do deserve to live in the US. You're probably a natural born citizen, aren't you? ALRIGHT THEN, I REST MY CASE. IF you dont think its fair that I have priority over you at a Cali CC,, then you should also think its wrong that you get to live in the US right now...because your not deserving of that either..</p>
<p>its all CHANCE. get over it...i'm lucky to have been born and raised in cali...and every area has its advantages...one of cali's advantages is the academic possibilities...</p>
<p>we californians are lucky to live in a state where education is a top priority. This sytem is created for us, californians, and i dont think it is to be taken advantage of by some OOS students.
We are just lucky that some of UC schools are the tops of national univeristies (UCB, UCLA, UCSD). To top it of, we have well-known private schools (USC, Caltech, Stanford, Pomona). If this werent the case, nobody will try to take advantage of our CCC-UC/USC/Pomona transfer agreement.</p>
<p>I know damn well I'm lucky to live in the United States. I never said I wasnt! When I have a career and someone from outside the United States comes over and "takes that job," they're probably damn well entitled to it. The same way if someone comes from out of state for a chance to go to UCLA, if they someone beat the system, get considered a resident and earn the grades it takes to go to UCLA, then they've earned it. You haven't done anything that makes you entitled to this system, so get off it. I've lived in California for several years, I know about the schools and I know about the sort of people who go to those schools. The only reason we're arguing about the CCC to UC process is because you didn't have the ability to get into a UC out of high school. You're only sensitive about it now because you're afraid a smarter and harder working student may take your place at a school that you are in no way deserve to go to.</p>
<p>I do see your point. I think I've made that terribly clear. I agree with you. I agree with you. I agree with you. </p>
<p>Is that better?</p>
<p>No one said that you should want to be respected here, but why would you go out of your way to be a pain in the ass? How is that at all fulfilling? Just to convince yourself for the fiftieth time that you're right? </p>
<p>It may be the internet, and this board may not have much merit on your real life, but I still don't understand why anyone would go out of their way to be so trollish, especially someone who has (from what I have previously seen) come off as totally normal before this?</p>
<p>I'm glad you're passionate about this, I guess. But I think that if you regarded this place as such a joke (since you don't need respect from people here, and don't care what anyone thinks), you wouldn't be trying so hard to be right. </p>
<p>You didn't annoy me. You just seem a little psychotic.</p>
<p>to thefreshprince, i am unsure about how residency works since im a state resident and i havent had to deal with this myself; but i do know that 1) you have to be dependent 2) your aunt would have to classify you as dependent in your taxes, 3) you would have had to live here for a certain period of time. You should speak to the university of your choice and find out what is their residency policy.</p>
<p>allie i dont care if you agree with me..you can keep saying that....you and i aren't the only ones in this forum...</p>
<p>you say i've come off as totally normal before lol and now i'm psychotic? haha so the second somebody starts typing paragraphs about an issue they care about, they become psychotic? i may have been mean and difficult but that doesn't make me psycho lol</p>
<p>i'm trying to explain myself to the maybe DOZEN people in here who are opposed to what i say...</p>
<p>i'm very proud of california, california's cc system, the opportunities made available to us, etc etc and i dont appreciate people from out of state taking advantage of our CCs. thats all.</p>
<p>CCs SHOULD be a place for californians to be given a second chance, maybe save up money because of tough financial cirumstances, and transfer to their dream school...</p>
<p>this virginia guy isn't the first person to ever want to go to UCLA and USC...and for him to comfortably move out here and only live here a couple years so he can live out his dreams.....while he maybe taking the spot of a disadvantaged low income student born and raised in east oakland, who wants the same things...CCs are MADE for californians. end of story....and this virginia kid should realize that if he were to come here, he should have a good reason other than 'i wanted to go since i was small' who cares? that doesn't make you special. you should know that by coming here your taking a deserving californian's spot. i know that isn't going to stop you, and i guess i can't blame you, but that doesn't change what it is your doing.</p>
<p>1) He does have a good reason for wanting to move out there- he would at some point anyway for his career. And at some point will be paying taxes going towards the California school system, why wouldn't he get to take advantage of it?
2) He wouldn't be "living comfortably" in California. He'll be 3000 away from his family and won't have the financial support from his parents. As opposed to you, I'm sure you'll be living at home and your parents will pay your way through cc.</p>
<p>brdpun, your question "why wouldnt he get to take advantage of it" is somewhat contradicting to what inevitably will happen. 1) he will not take advantage of it because hes going to be paying out of state tuition, 2) he will be paying taxes for nothing because he will not become a resident easily</p>
<p>Well, I'm assuming Ilovecalifornia's qualm with someone OOS coming to California and getting in to a UC is because they are going to be considered instate in regards to tuition and acceptance. Otherwise, her complaint is retarded. If someone from OOS moves to California and still has to pay out of state tuition then it shouldn't matter that they're "taking a spot" for tax paying Californians because the very expensive tuition for out of state students is meant to counter the fact they haven't given taxes to the CA school system. If the OP does what he says he will, which will be to live and work in California once he graduates, then he will be putting money into the school system.</p>
<p>Our son is a senior with a 3.9 gpa, ACT of 28, in top 9% of his class. He is very interested in attending a film school with a good reputation. What would his chances be (coming from way out here in Nebraska) of getting into schools like UCLA, USC or Chapman? Would it be better for him to start at a 2nd tier school? Any suggestions? Thanks for your help.</p>
<p>yes, my 'qualm' is about the tuition and acceptance...</p>
<p>You just dont live in california do you? because our CCs are in place for three reasons that come to my mind : help low income students, give bad students a second chance, and offer associate degrees and job training.....</p>
<p>its not for spoiled rich kids from out of state. get over it. my 'complaint' makes sense. why are you trying to prove me wrong?</p>
<p>brdpun...get off the OP's balls. i'm not talking about him specifically. you dont even know what your saying...you dont know anything about california. please be gone.</p>
<p>mommac, the acceptance rates for out of state students at UCLA are daunting. He could certainly try, but he should realize the poor odds. USC is a different story, as it is private. I'm not familiar with Chapman.</p>
<p>Your son should apply to a range of schools with respect to selectivity, some reaches, some 50/50 chance schools and some safety schools. The latter might be second tier schools. Then, once the acceptances are in, he can decide whether to go to the second tier school or not. If that is what he ends up choosing, realize that a second tier school is one of the top 100 in this country and is sitll a fabulous choice.</p>
<p>On the Parent Forum, there are several posters knowledgeable about film programs (or any other type of program ;)). You might want to post your question there about recommendations for schools to consider. Good luck to you and your son.</p>
<p>Ok, I lived in California. I have many friends in California, I know about the damn schools, let's get that straight. Why the hell should you get a "second chance" anyway? Like I said, you wouldn't be complaining if it wasn't a CC to UC transfer. In fact, I'm sure once you start failing at CC this won't be such a big deal either. It has nothing to do with how well off you are either, you missed my point entirely (big surprise). All I was saying is that YOU are NOT ENTITLED to California schools. You haven't done anything that makes you deserve to go to a UC other than someone from out of state. You just happened to be born to parents that lived in California. Why the hell shouldn't someone else be able to move to California, and possibly be considered in-state for acceptance reasons but not tuition? If they're paying OOS tuition anyway, that negates your whole argument. I don't see how someone moving from OOS is spoiled. They're going to have to work their ass off to be considered for a California school. A lot harder than you'll have to work, I promise you.</p>
<p>you are waaaaaaaay too stupid if you haven't gotten my point yet....i didn't read beyond the first line in your last post so dont bother. I completely disagree with you and you dont know shiit about California's school system so give up. Simply put : You are way to ignorant on the matter to open your mouth.</p>
<p>I work 45 hours a week and the few hours I do get off, I try to enjoy and I'm not going to let a retard on CC stress me out. peace.</p>