<p>My daughter is applying to NYU for Musical Theater and I do not see MT listed under any of the studios in Tisch. Looking specifially for upcoming audition dates. Thanks.</p>
<p>The musical theater studio at NYU/Tisch is the Collaborative Arts Project 21, which most people call "CAP21." The "21" means "for the 21st century."</p>
<p>momofkp....</p>
<p>At Tisch, there is one studo for the study/training of Musical Theater and it is called CAP21 which is short for Collaborative Arts 21. All students in the BFA program at Tisch earn a BFA in Drama but those in CAP21 study MT, but the official degree is still BFA Drama. If your D wishes to train in MT, the studio she needs to try for is CAP21. Tisch reserves the right to place you in any studio if accepted. If you are not willing to attend any studio, you would have to say "CAP21 only" at auditions (which doesn't increase your odds, however). </p>
<p>You are late in scheduling an audition for NYU/Tisch. Auditions appointments opened up for scheduling on Oct. 1. I just checked online for you and there are no longer any audition slots available in NYC or Chicago. However, there are some time slots open in Seatlle, LA, San Diego, Austin, or Atlanta. </p>
<p>Here is where you can schedule the auditions and specify that you want to do a MT audition (it shows dates/times still available but I already gave you which cities are still available at this late juncture in the process):</p>
<p><a href="http://drama.tisch.nyu.edu/apps/drama/%5B/url%5D">http://drama.tisch.nyu.edu/apps/drama/</a></p>
<p>You may wish to read about CAP21 studio here on NYU/Tisch's site:</p>
<p>CAP</a> 21: Tisch School of the Arts at NYU</p>
<p>You may also wish to visit CAP21's own site here:</p>
<p>[url=<a href="http://www.cap21.org/%5DCAP21%5B/url">http://www.cap21.org/]CAP21[/url</a>]</p>
<p>(cross posted with NotMamaRose)</p>
<p>Thanks for posting this, I've been looking all over for it! Do you by any chance know how many students they take each year in CAP21 and how they view transfer applicants (i.e. CMU brings them in as 1st years, etc.)?</p>
<p>Bird.....CAP usually wants to yield a class of about 64. The number they accept to yield that may change year to year depending on the previous year's yield. Four years ago, when my D applied, they took 80 hoping that 64 would come but those who got the offer wanted to come and so the class was larger than they were seeking. I believe in subsequent years, they have been accepting less than 80 to get the 64 since the yields seem to be high. But you would have to ask Tisch to get an accurate update on that but that is what I think....I predict they will accept less than 80 to get 64. Maybe 70? I don't truly know but it won't be as high as 80. </p>
<p>I know that generally speaking in TISCH Drama...not specifically CAP only....a transfer student may enter as a sophomore in terms of their year in college (thus have to complete three years of college) but enter the studio as a first year and then they do three years of studio. So, conceivably, one could enter NYU with soph standing but be in the freshman studio class but graduate in three years. I know my D's friend did that as a transfer into Playwrights. </p>
<p>But again, I do not work for Tisch and am merely a Tisch parent and I would not want to give you misinformation and so I truly hope you will ask these questions directly of Tisch.</p>
<p>i will call them tomorrow, but thanks for your input, i appreciate it!</p>
<p>Bird, you are a transfer applicant, right? In that case...while I don't want to say that it is totally irrelavant the number of students accepted into CAP (it is relevant insofar as understanding the size of the program), but you are NOT a FRESHMAN APPLICANT and thus are not truly vying for one of the 64 slots in the way that freshmen applicants are doing. You are a TRANSFER APPLICANT and they take fewer transfers than freshmen. Also, they have to leave room for students in other studios who want to do their upper studio years in CAP (by audition). So, you are not vying for the same slots as a freshman really. You are vying for a transfer slot. I truly don't now how many TRANSFERS they accept. Even if you must start in the first year of studio, but get soph standing at the university, you are still a transfer applicant, which is not the same as someone applying as a freshman.</p>
<p>Also, even if you were a freshman applicant, don't be fooled by the NUMBER they accept. It is about acceptance RATES. I think the acceptance rate into CAP is likely around 6%, which is very low.</p>
<p>Bird, </p>
<p>The information about available auditions for YOU is different than I posted above when answering momofkp's post. </p>
<p>You still need to go to the same link for the Artistic Review Scheduler. But you need to click on "transfer" applicant, not "freshman" applicant. </p>
<p>When you do, I see that for NYC auditions for Transfer Applicants, you cannot begin to schedule the appointment until after Feb. 2. So, you can't do it yet. For some other cities, like LA, Seattle, San Diego, Austin, and Miami, there are some dates open for scheduling already. None available in Chicago. I think you are in FL and so your best bet is to secure Sat. Feb. 21 at 2 PM in MIami, as it is currently available. But you must do the Transfer for MT audition scheduler.</p>
<p>There is a lovely young woman in my daughter's class at CAP (my kid is a freshman who will be entering her second semester in mid-January) who is a transfer from CAS and is (as Susan indicates above) considered a first year. So, she will be spending five years at NYU in order to graduate, because she needs to spend three years in her studio at CAP21.</p>
<p>I apologize that I am just now viewing this info as I am on here looking for another link (that I just found)</p>
<p>Thanks Soozie and NMR for your input and advice. I have my audition in Miami tomorrow (well, technically today now). I'm so excited!</p>
<p>Break a leg!</p>
<p>So, let me start off by saying I realize that my question is really specific and probably best answered by NYU's admissions staff. That said, there seem to be plenty of educated and helpful individuals HERE to help so I thought I'd shoot it by you all first. :-)</p>
<p>Unlike Steinhardt's MT program, where transferring is relatively easy and well explained on their website, CAP is a totally different and confusing story. </p>
<p>MY Story: I'm a high school senior with mediocre grades. I would have loved to apply and audition for CAP this year but knew that I would not have been within the ballpark of NYU's admissions requirements. That's why my plan is to attend a community college in CA next year, and then apply/audition to all of my potential schools-- either next year or the following. This depends on whether or not I have enough college credits to override my HS transcript. </p>
<p>BOTTOM LINE (because I'm starting to confuse myself!): How many credits/what classes do I need to take at a community college before I apply to NYU in order to nix my grades earned in HS. </p>
<p>ALSO: I realize that technically I'll have to apply as a transfer student. But I really don't want to be considered a transfer student because I would want to start with the freshman class (one-- because I want the training, and two-- there are far more slots available for freshman than there are for transfers trying to enter with sophomore standing, etc.) I'm not in any rush to finish early.</p>
<p>Does NYU care about the age of the applicant? Do they want their freshman class to all be fresh out of HS? I realize this is not the case at other top schools, where applicants often audition multiple years in a row before being accepted. </p>
<p>Hopefully SOMEONE understood all of that. Because I, err, barely did... and I wrote it! </p>
<p>Thanks in advance. :-)</p>
<p>Mtguy, if you've been a matriculated student at a community college (or any other college), you will be considered a transfer, not a freshman applicant. </p>
<p>I'm not sure that any amount of college credits will "nix" your high school grades (you will still have to supply your h/s transcript) but doing well in college will always be a good thing, and the more college credits you have, the less important your high school grades will be. Having said that, I don't remember hearing of transfer applicants to Tisch who were juniors. It's usually done after freshman year and the student goes into freshman studio even though they may have sophomore standing. </p>
<p>It might be a good idea for you to give Tisch a call and discuss this now before you plan on doing it and then find out in two years that it isn't going to work. They're nice people and they can give you the official word.</p>
<p>Reiterating what AlwaysAMom wrote, if you have matriculated and taken college courses after high school at any college, you will be considered a transfer appicant at any other college, not just Tisch. It doesn't matter if you want to start over as a freshman, you are still in the transfer application pile. And the odds of getting into most BFA programs as a transfer student are more difficult than as a freshman applicant. </p>
<p>AlwaysAMom is correct that your college grades won't wipe out your HS grades but if you do a lot better in college, that will surely help. Your HS transcript will still be part of your application. </p>
<p>At Tisch, if you were to get in as a transfer, you might obtain sophomore standing at NYU and only need to attend for three years, but would be a freshman in the studio track of your studies and would do studio for three years. I don't think it is possible to come in with junior standing (but you should inquire) in Tisch because the BFA is a set curriculum and so it is not like transferring from a BA to a BA program. </p>
<p>I don't know nearly enough about you or how low your academic profile is. Even if it is too low for NYU/Tisch, it doesn't mean it is for other BFA in MT programs. In my view, you should not focus on NYU/Tisch. While it is too late now, if I had been advising you, I would have had you apply to BFA in MT Programs where your academic profile is in range for the school. Many BFA programs are in schools where the academic selectivity is much easier than at NYU....examples: Roosevelt, Hartt, BOCO, UArts, Pace, Baldwin-Wallace. I see no sense in going to college for six years when you can attend for four. However, that is water under the bridge since you did not apply. </p>
<p>If I were you, I would do a gap year and beef up the training and reapply to BFA programs as a FRESHMAN applicant next year (better odds than as a transfer) to colleges where your stats are in range for the schools even if it means NYU is not on your list. Students must realistically create college lists that fit their profile in order to obtain results. While NYU is a fine school, it is not the end all and be all. There may be options out there where you could get in....shoot for those.</p>
<p>mtguy17</p>
<p>soozie and alwaysamom's comments are both very helpful and correct. I am a prospective transfer this year and was asking similar questions on this thread, and I got some more answers last weekend when I auditioned for Tisch. From what I understood they still need to see your high school transcripts (since they requested them from me). The program at Tisch (I'm sure soozie knows more about this than me since her D attends) from what they were saying is almost 50% general education courses through the school of arts and sciences. I told both of my auditors that I wouldn't mind coming into the program as a Freshman, but then they told me I didn't understand their process since it's different than other schools. Like soozie told me earlier, you can come in at a different class standing, but be in your studio as a Freshman (or 1st year). They also said that Yes, it is a two-step process to get in and both committees meet to discuss your acceptance. They also mentioned that your grades have to be in the ballpark of what they want, not exactly what it states on the website, and they also said that if they really want you and your grades are just a little below they can pull some strings. But they said, if your GPA is below a 3.0 you should know that you shouldn't even apply because that is too low for them. Your grades from high school do not normally get 'wiped' from taking a few courses at a CC, the only time I have heard (through friends that have done it) is when you finish 2 years at that CC and get your AA degree. But normally with an AA degree you have already taken many core courses, etc, and most schools would want you to do a BA program because if you went to BFA most of the time you would have to start over. In my experience, Point Park took almost all of my credits but put them as electives so I would start in the program as a freshman because they believe that I will get more out of their classes than I did at my old school (which is fine b/c that is why I left) and they also told me it's very possible to do the BFA program there. You just need to research schools and call and talk to them and see what your 'fit' is. But I agree with soozie that you should just take a gap year and work on getting yourself prepared fully for your auditions and figuring out a nice list of places to apply so you have options. There are some schools that have one more audition this year that you might want to look into, I know Point Park has one. But I don't know if it is too late even though they have late auditions. Hope this helps a bit</p>