<p>check out the other thread on this topic. And notice, this article is an opinion piece. from Fox.</p>
<p>all the more reason to discard it</p>
<p>John Gibson is a generalizing doofus.</p>
<p>Would Yale have accepted Goebbels as a student after WWII?</p>
<p>How about a kid that was a public information officer for the US military during the Vietnam war?</p>
<p>I actually agree with a lot of what Gibson says - I know kids who didn't get into Yale last year... they probably had a lot better moral character (and better grades) than this dude did.</p>
<p>This is my only beef with the article:
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And Yale lets this one have a prized spot on the campus of one of the two or three top universities in the country?
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<p>Top two or three? Yale's #1, Mr. Gibson. #1.</p>
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Would Yale have accepted Goebbels as a student after WWII?
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No.</p>
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How about a kid that was a public information officer for the US military during the Vietnam war?
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Yes.</p>
<p>This student is in the Eli Whitney Scholars Program, i.e. the Yale Extension School. He didn't take the place of a deserving high school student.</p>
<p>Firstly he says Hashemi is unqualified, then he calls him an academic superstar? John Gibson is an idiot.</p>
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<li>As is anyone who gets all their news from Fox.</li>
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<p>I second that Mexican Bulldog</p>
<p>For those too ignorant to even read the article because of its source, here is the basic summary:</p>
<p>"Think any fellow students had a parent or relative killed in the World Trade Center by Taliban protected jihadis sent by bin Laden? If there are such students at Yale and there damn well should be should they have to quietly endure the presence of an apparatchik of the machine that plotted and executed their loved ones' most horrible demise?"</p>
<p>I agree.</p>
<p>And I noticed only the kids who already got into Yale are defending this. I once considered Yale my dream school, but more and more, these elitist, "look at me, I'm f-ing 300 years old" kinda schools who think they are above everyone else, seem less and less appealing.</p>
<p>Have fun with a murderer next year guys.</p>
<p>I haven't been accepted yet, I applied early action and was deferred. I didn't dismiss the article because it was from a fox reporter. I dismissed the article because it is an opinion piece with some incorrect facts. as someone has already mentioned, this is an Eli Whitney student. He's not taking a place from a regular applicant. Second, read another article, there are are a bunch in another thread on this board that explain this man's motivations for becoming a member of the taliban, as well as his motivations for leaving his country and coming to the united states. as someone over there mentions, when the taliban rose to power, they were considered saviors by a majority of afghanis. Does it make any sense for a man who hates America to study at an american institution? And honestly, if this man really was a war criminal responsible for 9-11, he really would be in guantanamo and not at yale. If the US government can't find a reason to arrest this man for terrorism, why should we, who are so much less informed than they are, convict him in our own minds?</p>
<p>and as for having to endure existence with people we don't agree with or like, or perhaps even hate, isn't that what college is all about? There are bad people in the world, and us not liking them won't make them go away. I'd personally like to have this man as a classmate. The only way for us to fight terrorism is for us to understand why the terrorists have appeal and take away that ability. The only way to find out is to learn from people who come from the cultures we seek to understand.</p>
<p>I read the other article. Yellow Journalism caused the Spanish-American War; it won't convince me that a terrorist conspirer is an innocent man.</p>
<p>I think diversity and the exchange of ideas is a great thing, but when this guy worked so closely with so many whom hate us so much (that's a lot of so's), I don't think that he should be given this opportunity.</p>
<p>Also, the piece is an opinion piece. I read a lot of opinions. From Krugman to O'Reilly, I make sure that I cover the breadth of political opinion, so that I legitimately do recieve "fair and balanced" information.</p>
<p>Seriously, if you guys think this kid is harmless, so be it. I just think that we should have a zero tolerance policy for this kinda crap.</p>
<p>I'm not sure that reading opinion pieces from both ends of the spectrum is enough to get a good grasp of a situation. Both ends give such a distorted version of the facts that sometimes they both ignore the important truths of the issues they are tackling</p>
<p>I'm convinced that no news is free of bias.</p>
<p>i guess it's inevitable that politics and such will become part of our lives as much as some of us want to avoid it. well, my point is that we have to be forgiving. i won't comment on the righteousness of yale's actions but i will say that people need to learn how to remember past wrongs in a better way. remember the wrong in order to make the future right. don't use it as a tool for anger and spite. for those who are victims of the taliban, i truly am sorry for what has happened to you...but don't be like them in the sense that they must use vengeful thoughts and actions as a response to wrongs done to them. instead be gracious and be an example for them and all of us. in other words, be an inspiration for us other people to be good, kind, and just despite the tumults of our time.</p>
<p>I gotta agree with Flyy on this one. Would we allow bin Laden to study at Yale? Preposterous!</p>
<p>rhapsody, i love you
Flyy, if you're getting your opinions from FNC, Yale isn't for you, sorry. you'll come off as a big "Amurican" idiot.</p>
<p>you guys are right, he's an Eli Whitney student; some kid with a perfect SAT score didn't lose his place in the class to him. he isn't even really in Yale College going towards a degree.</p>
<p>as for the Taliban, like he had a choice whether to join them or not?
think about it. did Pope Benedict have a choice to /not/ be a Hitler Youth? did Peter Pettigrew have a choice to /not/ follow the Dark Lord?
in the 3 cases, they needed to do what they needed to do to stay alive under the new system.
Hashemi just had to deal, he was following orders (and regrets whatever work he did before). Following orders, kinda like the American soldiers at My Lai. we forgave them, right?</p>
<p>on campus, no one cares about this. ok, he used to be a Taliban spokesman because the Taliban needed someone multilingual, big deal. he's not making girls on campus put on burqas. he's not damning the gays. he's not he's just there to study. Yale, being an American institution happens to like the American idea of being able to start your life over again.</p>
<p>furthermore, with all the Skull and Bones ties to the present administration, do you think the Bush administration couldn't easily tell the Yale Corporation they didn't agree with letting Hashemi in and prevent it? after all Dubya is arguable the most powerful Yale/Bonesman around right now.</p>