<p>Hey everyone this is my first post here...
Currently I am working on my MD degree. I will be doctor soon and I will have two years of professional work experience in hospital. I am planning to take GMAT next year and hopefully I will get above 700.. I did NOT have any business classes in my undergrad. I am 23... Top business schools look at your age before admission ?? I'll be applying next year so i'll be 24. Do you think I have any chance to get into HBS, stanford, wharton, kellogg or any top business school ?? Do you think I will have better chance because of my MD or MD doesnt count for anything???
Thanks in advance :)</p>
<p>... professional work experience? Do you mean clinical rotations?</p>
<p>yes they are clinical rotations...</p>
<p>My MD is going to be from Europe but my rotations will be from USA in NY and Chicago hospitals..... Thanks in advance</p>
<p>Why do you want an MBA?</p>
<p>I am doing my clinical rotations right now and I am interested in pharmacutical industry or hospial managment kind of work (business side of medicine).... I dont see myself working in clinical practice for my whole life... I see lots of doctor hate their jobs but since they dont know anything else, they dont have any other choice except showing up at hospital next day and see patients... I want to keep all my options open and with MBA I'll have more chance to get job in managment. I am also thinking about Healthcare consulting.... As physician once you know something then you follow that everyday (except research) but in business world you always experience something new everyday...</p>
<p>Two things:</p>
<p>1) I think it's very possible that a person with an MD is one of rare types of people who can get into an MBA program without more than 2 years of work experience. I would talk to these schools directly and find out if this is the case.</p>
<p>2) I would add schools to apply to beyond the 4 you named: Haas/Berkeley, Tuck, Columbia, and Chicago would be ones I'd consider adding. And then add a school that is a complete safety but which you'd still consider attending and which has a good MDMBA program -- I dunno check into it: maybe USC or University of Washington or Duke, etc.</p>
<p>Thanks BedHead</p>
<p>I am thinking about applying to top 10-15 schools. What are my chances to get into business school after MD?? I think for MBA school name matters its not like you get your MD and get your residency and medical license and then you are same as harvard medical graduate.. this is just my opinion.. I just started doing research about MBA so you guys know more than me... :)</p>
<p>Be careful not to frame your clinical rotations as "professional work experience," because they aren't. They are similar and might fill the same role, but that's not a correct way to describe them.</p>
<p>I'm also curious (as I suspect an adcom would be): are you from Europe? Why are your rotations in the US?</p>
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<p>I am American. My school is in Europe but we've american program here so all my classmates are from US or Canada. Our school has affiliation with American hospitals so we can do our clinical rotations in Europe or in US. So students who wants to get license in Europe finish their rotations in Europe and other finish in US (different medical laws). It is easier to do residency if I do rotations in US so most students do that... I dont have any business world experience just two years of my clincal rotations...
Not having business experience or BS in business decrease my chances for business school??? There are many MD/MBA programs in US but too bad my school doesnt have it. I dont think those students have any business experience either.... Any chance for top business schools ???</p>
<p>My main problem with your application is that it sounds like you really don't know what you want to do yet. You say you want "options" but the fact is you will still have the option to get your MBA after you work for a few years so it is not necessary to get an MBA right now.</p>
<p>Personally, I would work for a period of time as a Dr. and figure out exactly what kind of business work I want to do in the medical industry, because you probably won't get those answers in graduate business school. Then, go back for your MBA.</p>
<p>Even if you decide to go for your MBA now, you will have to sell the admissions committees that you know what you want and you will need an MBA to accomplish your goals.</p>
<p>I would like to do healthcare consulting or pharmacutical industry for few years to gain some business experience and then work in hospital administration and hopefully end up at CEO position.. If I want to work as doctor then first I have to finish 3 years of residency and then I can work as licensed physician.. So why not do 2 years of business school and then start doing what I want to do ?? I am talking about options in long run like 15-20 years later... If I'm physician then it'll be hard to change career but with MBA it wont be that hard.... Thanks for reply vectorwega :)</p>
<p>To really take advantage of all the years you've invested into medical school, I think you should go through your residency and be fully licensed. That will give you better options.Many clinical labs and hospitals need a fully licensed physician to oversee it, albeit in name only.</p>
<p>I actually didnt go through undergrad school I went stright to 6 years medical program after high school so I didnt invest that many extra years in med school. I am about 90% sure that I dont want to go into clinical medicine and if I do decide to go then MBA from top university will only give me chance to get residency at better place in better specialty... Main thing I want to know from you guys is Do I have chance to get in at top business schools ??? I am not trying to be mean or ignore your opinion cbreeze but I am not going for residency right after medical for personal family reasons...</p>
<p>Nonetheless, cbreeze may raise a very important point, even if it's one that is difficult to hear. </p>
<p>If I were you, now that the admissions season is drawing down and before MBA programs start their heavy duty recruiting trips, I'd call them up and ask them all your questions. Your situtation is not run of the mill. Also, you can get them to work with you to give you ideas on how to get in. You may get rejected the first year, but the second year of trying get in and this can happen because you responded to feedback.</p>
<p>Have you thought about joint MPH/MBA programs? I know Berkeley/Haas has a good one. I don't know about others.</p>
<p>Graduate</a> Program in Health Management - Haas School of Business</p>
<p>Do business schools accept candidates who don't have a bachelor's?</p>
<p>Thanks BedHead,
I checked out Hass school of business joint MPH/MBA program. I really like that idea. Is that school any good (like top 10-15) ?? Sorry about lots of questions... and good point can you get in top business school without BS or BA ??? I will just have MD...</p>
<p>After a 6 year program straight from high school, isn't your degree MBBS?, Bachelors of Medicine?</p>
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<p>How many Canadian and US kids attend this program straight from high school? Can you name the school? I know it is common in British Commonwealth countries for this type of programs, but I doubt they attract many US and Canadian kids.</p>
<p>However, I know of many off shore foreign medical schools, but those require a college degree.</p>
<p>no it is not MBBS its MD degree. School is not in UK its in Poland... First you will think ohh poland so third world country so not worth it but it is(that was my first reaction too)... Actually there are many schools with this 6 years programs. In my school we've about 400-500 American and about 50 Canadian kids...My school has both 6-year and 4-year program. We also have about 400-500 students from western Europe since poland is part of EU now... Its medical university of lublin.. I know about 4-5 other schools in Poland with this kind of program.. More in other countries... Now they have few medical school in US with this program too but very few number..</p>
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<p>The average of a lot of rankings puts Haas in the top 10, and it gets some top 5 honors. Rankings vary, but averaging them out as I said puts it around 7 or 8.</p>
<p>The thing about Haas is it's quite small -- full-time student body the size of Stanford or Tuck. This is a good thing in terms of teaching and getting to be friends with your fellow students, but probably gets it overlooked a bit in terms of rankings. The other thing: if you want to go into biotech, it doesn't really get any better than the Bay Area where Berkeley is based. In fact, gene splicing was developed at University of California, San Francisco (Berkeley's de facto med school and the top-rated med school on the West Coast), and the biotech giant Genentech was spun out from there. And Haas tends to be one of those schools that feeds a lot of people into its local regional economy, as does Stanford.</p>
<p>Regarding your other question, as I said, call the schools yourself and ask.</p>