My first sem grades are in....need some advice please

<p>Hi,
Im currently a freshman at a private LAC (US news top 40) and eventhough I really really love it here, I was seriously considering transferring out of here since the major I would like to do isnt offered here (computer science or information systems ). I was hoping of getting a 3.7+ in my first semester and I was till the first half but now thanks to just 1 course ive got a 3.53 (I had 3 math courses and 1 econ course). </p>

<p>Now have I totally screwed my chances of transferring out? Will the colleges look at my 2nd semester grades coz im taking somewhat harder courses next sem (3 math courses again, 2 of them 200 lvl , and intro to psychology)
I was thinking about NYU either cas or stern ( I was waitlisted from Stern when i applied for freshman admission) UPENN ( i really wanted to go here) CMU (school of CS) Northwestern (WCAS). </p>

<p>Any advice will be really appreciated. Thanks!</p>

<p>Your GPA is too low for me to say any of those schools are reasonables. If your HS stats are strong, you would have a good shot at those schools if you applied for sophomore standing. If not, get that GPA up and apply for junior standing. ( This is assuming that your ECs are very strong as well).</p>

<p>cc^^ pretty much summed it up</p>

<p>what are your hs stats? what are your ec’s? upenn is out of reach, the rest are all stretches at this point</p>

<p>oh.
Im an international student so i dont have a gpa as such, but according to the ppl who go to these colleges from my school, my stats are about the same as theirs.
However my SAT 1 really sucks (1980) :(.</p>

<p>My GPA is low even for NYU CAS ?? OH thats a bummer :(</p>

<p>yes, your gpa will definantly hurt you for nyu cas, you might have an outside shot but you need to tone down your expectations a bit</p>

<p>Your GPA is NOT low.</p>

<p>If any of the above posters, who say it is, can back up their opinions with evidence… they should post that evidence here and now. Otherwise, I sincerely wish that individuals would cease to characterize a 3.5+ GPA as low.</p>

<p>It is not.</p>

<p>In answer to the OP’s qx re 2nd semester grades,… some schools will look at your mid-term grade report for a sophomore transfer. Some will not.</p>

<p>Good luck to you.</p>

<p>Thanks for your feedback every1!!</p>

<p>Oh and one more thing, i forgot to include this in my original post, but what GPA would i need to be competitive for the university of michigan (either the LSA or the engineering school, whichever allows me do to a computer science major).</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>andale-</p>

<p>I never said that a 3.5 was low, although apparently you misinterpreted it as such. I asserted that a 3.5 is low for the schools the OP wishes to apply to. As for nyu CAS, yes I know its hearsay, I called the admissions office when I was beginning the xfer process (and it was confirmed by another applicant who I told and who called again) and the rep. said that the average accepted gpa from the previous year was a 3.7. As for carnegie mellon, stern and u Penn, I would post links to transfer threads for the afformentioned schools, but I don’t think its necessary. I think in making such judgements, we have an equal burden of proof. So I would ask what evidence you have to show that a 3.5 is not on the low side for the OP’s schools. So as not to hijack OP’s post, if you wish to respond let us continue through PM if it is not germaine to the OP.</p>

<p>I got accepted last year to UM-LSA with a 3.42 so it can be done</p>

<p>Re post #8, I did not direct any comments at you.

What is germane to the OP, and others interested in whether they are competitive for transfer to a given school is this:

  1. You cannot look at GPA in isolation.
  2. There are legions of examples, such as maxk88, of applicants with GPA’s in and around 3.5 being accepted to highly selective schools.
  3. Your own statement, that the “average” is 3.7… by definition shows that (roughly) half have GPA’s below that and roughly half above that.
  4. The OP took 3 math and 1 math-based courses and had a 3.53, caused by one grade in one course. That is a stellar first term.</p>

<p>I’m tempted to go list all the applicants who were rejected to u penn and stern with a 3.5 (all of them, except for perhaps a couple of donor kids i can’t remember). A 3.5 is certainly on the lower side for upenn, stern, cas etc., not much really controversial about that. And outside of U Penn I never said that OP wouldn’t be accepted to any of their schools, just that because of their gpa that those schools would be “reaches.” If you have evidence to show that a 3.5 is not on the low side for the schools OP is applying to, I sincerely wish you would post it. </p>

<p>in regards to number 1, I was not attempting to look at OP’s gpa in isolation. In fact, I even asked the OP “what are your hs stats? what are your ec’s?” I was commenting on the OP’s gpa, as was asked by the OP in post #4.</p>

<p>In regards to your 4th point, obviously very roughly half of the people above the average gpa and half the people below it are accepted into nyu cas or any other school for that matter. But your point rests on the faulty assumption that the people above the average gpa don’t hold an advantage over those below it. The applicant with a 3.8 gpa will most certainly hold a distinct advantage over the applicant with say a 3.0 gpa. The OP is below the average accepted gpa of nyu (and one would assume u penn, northwestern, and stern) and their chances will most certainly not be as strong as the applicants applying with the average accepted gpa to said school. Just because half the people who are accepted into a school have a gpa below the colleges average accepted gpa does not mean that the people with more competitive gpa’s did not hold a key advantage over them. Pretty obvious. </p>

<p>As to point number 5, again you misinterpret my comments. I never said that a 3.53 was low or wasn’t “stellar”, just that it was low for the schools s/he was applying to.</p>

<p>the moderator wasnt directing anything hostile at you specifically dufflebag, so just calm down. you may be taking things a little too seriously.</p>

<p>OP: no your chances arent totally screwed. does your school offer any CS classes at all? if so, perhaps trying to transfer next year would help?</p>

<p>There’s a considerable difference between “low” and “too low.”</p>

<p>thats what i be sayin yo</p>

<p>I have to believe NYU will be hurting for full pay students. Just anecdotal evidence, but 3 part time students in my office are leaving to attend state schools next year due to the economy. I’d absolutely throw in an application if you can still afford it!</p>

<p>certainly worth it</p>

<p>hmom: “I have to believe NYU will be hurting for full pay students”…
Don’t you think that will be the case for the majority of expensive schools & not just NYU specifically?</p>