<p>I saw a lot of other guys using this method of posting their stats as a way of gauging their chances at chosen schools. I am looking at Yale, Stanford, Princeton, USC, Penn, BC, BU, Williams, Cornell, Duke, Vanderbilt, Tufts, Northwestern, and Wash U St. Louis. Here's my stuff:</p>
<h2>High School Basics</h2>
<p>GPA: 4.1 weighted 3.6 unweighted
SAT: 2360
SAT IIs: 800 Math IIc, 730 U.S. History, 650 Chem (I'm retaking this in November 2008 because I didn't study for it)
APs: Took 8 courses and 10 tests* scored four 4s and six 5s</p>
<h2>EC's</h2>
<p>-Founder and CEO of a company since the eleventh grade (our clients are high schools who purchase licenses from us for using our service)
-4-Year Varsity Tennis Athlete *we won New Jersey States in 2006
-Spanish Newspaper Sports Editor
-Vice President of the Princeton Engineering Education for Kids Club
-Run an independent tech blog (nishantm.blogspot.com)
-Worked as a Lifeguard one summer
-Attended Stanford Summer College 2007 and earned two As in Human Physiology and Cognitive Psychology
-Co-authored 4 research papers under the nation's first Robotic Prostatectomy Surgeon as a research associate in his Urology lab at Cornell Weill Medical College
-Worked 110 hours at a local hospital as a volunteer
-Highest rank of 282 in the Eastern Section in the USTA (United States Tennis Association)</p>
<h2>Personal Info</h2>
<p>-Indian American
-School was on the list of US Newsweek's Top 100 Best Public Schools in the Nation and generally sends a lot of kids to Penn</p>
<p>I'd really like to get into Penn's M&T Jerome Fisher Program and I'm applying to Penn early. The rest I'm applying to Regular Decision. I'd really appreciate if you guys could break down for each school how I stand (maybe a 1-10 scale for each school, 1 being terrible and 10 being excellent). Thanks a lot guys, I really appreciate your time.</p>
<p>I'm not going to give you a 1-10 scale because that's kind of on shaky ground to me. I would say that you have little to worry about, regarding your stats and ECs. You should know that Yale, Stanford, Princeton, Penn, and to a certain extent Williams and Cornell can be crapshoots -- acceptance is less than or hovers around 10% for most of these schools and even the best-qualified applicants get turned away sometimes. I would say that considering your ECs (particularly co-authoring those research papers) you have a better chance than many of getting into those schools.</p>
<p>Duke, Vanderbilt, Tufts, Northwestern, Wash U, Boston (College and University) are a bit more of sure things. I would say they are all probably match schools for you, BC and Tufts perhaps being more safe-matches. I would pick one solid safety school -- I mean, I predict that you will get into the majority of these schools, but application season can be unpredictable. Also, make sure that you have at least 2 schools that you can afford with reasonable financial aid. I know that the top schools promise to match 100% of your need, but sometimes that doesn't functionally work out to 100% of your REAL need.</p>
<p>I'm a senior at Penn and am actually dual degree Wharton/Engineering... I actually started out as single degree Engineering, and my grades were good enough freshman year to start the dual degree with Wharton. Just trust me, getting into M&T from HS isn't easy..... I had friends who applied to M&T early and got rejected but were offered single degree admission to Wharton, and getting into Wharton by itself from HS isn't too easy either. My advice actually would be the backdoor that most people don't seem to know about. Apply to the College of Arts and Sciences. If you get in, take the easiest courses possible freshman year. If you get above a 3.7 or so which it seems like most people do anyway freshman year in liberal arts, you'll be allowed to internally transfer into Wharton after which I'm pretty sure you can automatically start a dual degree with Engineering. Getting into the College from HS and then doing well enough in liberal arts freshman year to internally transfer to Wharton is a hell of a lot easier than getting into Wharton directly from HS, and starting the dual degree with Engineering after transferring to Wharton is certainly easier than getting into M&T. </p>
<p>If you can't manage to get above a 3.7 freshman year in the College, then you still could have done a hell of a lot worse in college admissions than to end up a single degree liberal arts student at Penn. In my case I applied single degree to Penn Engineering because I was legitimately interested in it and didn't even know you could internally transfer to Wharton until after I got here (if I did I would have majored in something a hell of a lot easier than engineering freshman year since the GPA cutoff to transfer to Wharton doesn't consider what your major is), but if anyone is on to you about what you're doing with the "back door" and give you **** about it being "lame and dishonorable" and whatnot then whatever... they'll probably still be complaining when you graduate from Wharton and are about to start your job at Goldman Sachs, at which point I doubt you'll care all that much... Hope this helps!!</p>
<p>Thanks a mil juillet, juliushark, noobcake, rd31, and redsox9687. My school doesn't rank kids but they release a "decile" to all colleges —*I'm probably around the lower end of the 1st decile, but nobody sees where within the decile a student stands. Haha, I've been working in the research lab at Cornell this summer and the primary goal of the lab is to release papers for conferences. I was just kinda worried about a 650 SAT II Chem score and a 3.6 GPA. I've been seeing so much stuff (on College Conf.) about kids with relatively low GPAs having "no shot" at any Ivy League school, and I figured that could be bad news for me. Thanks for the help again, I really appreciate it. Oh, last thing...I promise. Given my stats and the schools I've chosen, is my list good to go or should I look for more safeties? I have no experience so I don't know how "safe" BU, BC, Tufts, Vandy, Duke, and Wash U are. Are they on the safer side?</p>
<p>"do you have any familial or friendly relationships?"
ahahahahaahahahaha</p>
<p>honestly, your EC's are fab, but with such a low GPA, the ivies might just pass right over your application.
unless by 'indian american' you mean native american.
which i mean you dont so...</p>
<p>OK, got it. My GPA is something that I could be punished for. But how bad is it? Is it "don't even try for Ivies" bad? Or, "very low shot at a good school?" Or even, "good shot at getting into one of those schools?" The way I see it, and I could definitely be wrong, is that with a mix of 12 to 13 schools, there's a somewhat low chance of me being rejected from each and every school on my list. What do you think the probability of me not getting into any of the schools on that list (excluding BU) are? That's something I'd really like to know. Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>WHOA!! i'm not an expert on admissions or anything, but i think you have a pretty good shot. of course from the stories that i've heard, college admissions at that level is a crapshot and is extremely unpredictable</p>