naps question

Colleges and Universities A-Z Naval Academy - Annapolis
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NAPS starts w/ around 240 USNA hopefuls, but by USNA I-Day that number's closer to 200. (NAPS class of '07 has lost 12-15% of its members already, and Admin is just now starting academic review for borderline kids.) Also, it was my understanding that those 400+ or so w/ post-high school included NAPS and Foundation? And might there be double-counting in this calculation for URMs/females who are in the top-tier admitted and others who get NAPS/Foundation? So maybe the number's not quite as tiny as suggested?

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<p>Your points are well taken-
NAPs is offered to about 240 each year.... the yield from that differs from year to year, with a near-final estimate coming around April when their files go before the admissions board.... nevertheless, the 240 have a seat in the class that is "theirs to lose".... some will.... which accounts for some last-minute appointments going out right up until I-Day. </p>

<p>It is unclear if the 400+ or so with post-high school studies are included in the numbers the admission board puts out.... my guess is that they might be, but then again USNA posts those numbers seperately.... as for females, while I know there were some in the foundation program (a small percentage- perhaps 30%???) I am not sure what the breakdown is for NAPs.... my guess is that is mirrors what is at the academy- in the 28% range- it would stand to reason the percentage runs about the same for all programs...</p>

<p>I can remember trying to crunch through these numbers over and over, trying to "calculate" the chances.... in our case, mostly out of desperation... too many coaches calling, all great guys, watching our son try to tiptoe through the questions while waiting and stalling and hoping for an answer from USNA.... and then I just stopped- cold turkey- because I realized he had done the very best he could have done- we could ask no more of him than he had given- (well, maybe a few more A's in english lit).....and when I realized it was no longer in our control, when I let the worry go and trusted in the system, somehow the waiting got so much easier. In the end it all worked out....perhaps not exactly as planned (he got an offer of foundation for USNA and not the direct appointment he had hoped for)....but then again, who is to say it was not intended to go that way from the get-go? The bottom line is that he had a seat in the upcoming class of 2010 that was "his to lose".... and we had faith that there was no way he was going to let that happen. That extra year paid off big-time for him.... in every way imaginable....</p>

<p>so the way I see it you have 2 choices: you can worry yourself sick over the numbers, crunch them till the cows come home, and still not understand with any certainty how they are factored, let alone what your chances are..... or you can let it go- concentrate on back up plans should things not go well (they won't for 500+ equally stellar kids)..... use the time to enjoy senior year-finish with great grades- have fun with friends- and leave some things to fate. </p>

<p>Again, each to his (or her) own!<br>
PS... if you do decide to continue the number crunching, the CC folks from last year highly recommended merlot and chocolate.... :) a toast...that the numbers are truely higher than they appear, that the odds are favorable, and that a fat letter arrives soon.....better yet, that the kids make it through to Thanksgiving next year, happy in their choice, no matter where that choice takes them! That is my litmus test!</p>

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<p>CORRECTION TO POST: </p>

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Let's try again! Does anyone know if "Scholastically Qualified" "Triple Qed" people get offered NAPS? </p>

<p>The answer is no.

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<p>What I read the question to be: Does......people AUTOMATICALLY get offered NAPS? (too little coffee today...seeing things!!!)</p>

<p>what I meant to say is ......</p>

<p>You can be triple-q'd and still be referred for NAPs or foundation....</p>

<p>Triple q'd does not guarentee you will be offered NAPs or foundation should you not get a direct appointment</p>

<p>Triple q'd does not guarentee an appointment at all</p>

<p>You can still be considered, and offered, a direct appointment even after you have been offered a Foundation sponsorship </p>

<p>There- now i feel better! :o</p>

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<p>navy2010,
I think what you have stated above is that your son was a triple-qualified recruited blue-chip athlete who was not offered an appointment. Is this, in fact, true?</p>

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<p>not sure about "blue-chip"....if you mean was he recruited at other D-1 programs besides USNA? Then the answer is yes.</p>

<p>He received an offer of Foundation in December, started the application process for the foundation schools early January, received a triple q'd letter late January, was told that he was "still under consideration" for a direct appointment, to continue with the foundation process....which is where he ended up.</p>

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<p>By "blue chip", was he a recruited athlete at USNA? If so, both USNA and NCAA have very specific rules and regulations about contact with the student-athlete. BGOs cannot even visit or initiate conversations with recruited athletes in some sports. In lacrosse, they can discuss the Academy but are expressly forbidden to discuss sports. If they do, it then becomes one of the school's official visits. Your BGO's discussion of weight and conditioning would be highly irregular.</p>

<p>If your son was a triple qualified recruited athlete and then sent to a prep school, it is indeed a type of "red shirt" year and violates NCAA policy.</p>

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<p>I have no doubt the coaches, BGO's, etc, know the NCAA rules and regs, inside and out. There are pages of rules as to who can contact whom, where, when and how... </p>

<p>the athlete is a bit less restricted in initiating calls-
coaches are more limited on when and how often they can call, and for what purpose-</p>

<p>Basketball and football rules/regs are far more restriced compared to other sports, including lacrosse-</p>

<p>Conversations centered on academy, application, etc.... one official visit to USNA for his sport.... many unofficial visits with no lax contact for his own information... CVW not charged as "official visit," neither is summer camp attendance... </p>

<p>He became qualified well after his file was reviewed at the admissions office, after his referral to foundation, and after his acceptance of the program....
I do not believe any rule was violated-</p>