National College Match - 2009-2010

<p>What about colleges that dont do EA/ED (e.g. Princeton)?? Can we not “rank” them during the MATCH process, but is it possible to rank them during RD, on Dec. 1?</p>

<p>Wait…well, if you’re a finalist, you can rank them. As a non-finalist you can rank them for RD, yes. But Princeton doesn’t accept the QB application, FYI, only the supplement + Common App.</p>

<p>While I’m sure by his or her use of quotes around rank that powerbomb knows exactly what he or she is referring to, to head off any possible confusion by students…
When you have QB colleges consider you during the Regular Decision process, you do not rank them in order of preference. You simply have the schools consider you for admission. You are free to decide to attend whatever school you want to during Regular Decision. (Obviously, if you’ve already been matched to a binding school you would not be a part of RD.)</p>

<p>Wait… I thought I got this process, but now I’m confused all over again. </p>

<p>ED = MATCH PROCESS right??? So how can you “rank” Princeton and then be considered by them if Princeton doesnt even have ED?? </p>

<p>I thought this was the way things worked…</p>

<p>First, you turn in your application on Sept. 30th –> You get considered for Finalist status. –> If you are chosen as a finalist, you have the choice to go ED or RD. If you are not chosen as a finalist, this is the end of the road for you. You just apply the same old way as you would have without QB –> Your application get forwarded to the colleges you “rank” if you decide to go ED. –> Colleges either accpet/reject you –> If you got rejected from the ED round, you are automatically re-considered for RD round. You have another chance to “re-rank” the colleges for RD. </p>

<p>That’s how I thought things worked… am I wrong?</p>

<p>No. You submit your application by sept. 30. Then Oct. 12 you have to submit your 8 schools that you would want to attend IF you make it to the finals. Then later that month they notify via email all the finalists. If you ARE a finalist, you wait for instructiosn to go further; if you ARE NOT a finalist, you continure ED/EA/RD at the college(s) of your choice. If you’re not a finalist, you can still apply to the schools that were in your top 8, QB just fowards your application to the college instead of you doing their application all over again.</p>

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<p>What would QB forward? The application that I turned in on sep. 30th? But some colleges want THEIR application, and doesn’t accept the QB application in lieu of theirs.</p>

<p>You only rank schools during the Match Process. During the Regular Decision process, you can be considered by all the schools you’re interested in. Let me give you some scenarios:</p>

<p>Scenario 1:
Student applies to QB and is picked as a finalist. Student ranks the following schools:

  1. Yale
  2. Amherst
  3. Swarthmore
    Both Amherst and Swarthmore tell QB they would like Student as one of their College Match Scholars. Yale does not select Student. Since Student ranked Amherst above Swarthmore, Student is matched with Amherst. Amherst is a binding match, so Student is done with their college admissions. </p>

<p>Scenario 2:
Student applies to QB and is picked as a finalist. Student ranks the following schools:

  1. Princeton
  2. Rice
  3. Haverford
  4. Notre Dame
  5. Scripps
    Student is picked by Notre Dame and Scripps. Since Student ranked Notre Dame above Scripps, Student is matched with Notre Dame. Since Notre Dame is a non-binding match, Student is free to apply to any other colleges Regular Decision. (These can be QB colleges or any other college.) However, Student cannot apply EA or ED to any other schools. Let’s say Student applies Regular Decision to Princeton, Rice, Harvard, Chicago and UCLA. Student is accepted by Princeton, Rice and UCLA, but rejected by the others. Student is free to choose among all the schools to which he has been accepted, in this case, Notre Dame, Princeton, Rice and UCLA.</p>

<p>Scenario 3: (BY FAR THE MOST COMMON)
Student applies to QB and is picked as a finalist. Student ranks the following schools:

  1. Cal Tech
  2. MIT
  3. Northwestern
  4. Stanford
    Student is not selected as a College Match Scholar by any of these schools. Student chooses which QB partner schools to which he is going to apply RD. Student also applies to non-QB schools like his State U, Tulane and Reed College. Student is accepted during the Regular Decision Process to MIT, Stanford and State U, but is rejected by all the others. Student is free to choose among the schools to which he was accepted.</p>

<p>The QB webpages giving an overview of the QB process have already been posted. Here they are:
[QuestBridge</a> National College Match - Process Overview](<a href=“http://www.questbridge.org/students/process.html]QuestBridge”>http://www.questbridge.org/students/process.html)
<a href=“http://www.questbridge.org/images/flowchart.png[/url]”>http://www.questbridge.org/images/flowchart.png&lt;/a&gt;
Note that these links only apply to the process for QB partner schools. If you do not receive a binding match, you can apply to any school you want during Regular Decision.</p>

<p>@2blue: My wording was confusing, the word rank doesn’t really apply to RD.
@powerbomb: Princeton does participate in the match scholarship, or ED. All partner schools do. Princeton does not do any ED processes outside of Questbridge; I assume that it is non-binding because of this.
If you become a finalist, you can do MATCH(ED) and RD. If you are matched to a binding school, you can’t do RD. If you DON’T become a finalist, you cannot participate in the match program, but QB will forward your application for the RD round.</p>

<p>^ Try to take it one step at a time</p>

<p>I’ll give this a try for you…This is how I see it - (after digesting the info since the QB College Prep Scholarship! - LOL!) </p>

<p>FILL OUT THE QB APPLICATION to become a QB National Scholar FINALIST to the best of your ability with all the necessary stats. (Sept. 30)</p>

<ol>
<li><p>You will have to rank (or not) the QB partner schools before you know if you have been chosen a QB Finalist (Oct. 12) </p></li>
<li><p>If you are named a Finalist - around (Nov. 1 ??) nothing more to do until you hear if you are MATCHED - (around Dec. 1 ??)</p></li>
<li><p>If you are NOT a Finalist - You are on your own to submit your applications any way you want. (You will have a head start with the QB application already filled out!)</p></li>
<li><p>If you are named a Finalist and are NOT MATCHED - you may request your QB Application to be sent to any QB partner Schools and QB will forward your application to be in the Regular Decision pool (Fees waived)</p></li>
<li><p>You may, at that time, also send in applications to any other schools (not QB partners)</p></li>
</ol>

<p>Don’t agonize over ED/EDll/EA/Regular Decision</p>

<p>QB essentially is even earlier than ED for it’s partner schools - (you will have an ‘edge’ in the ED pool if you list/rank any of QB schools for a MATCH in your application and you are named a FINALIST)</p>

<p>If you are afraid to list/rank a school because you have not visited - don’t list a binding school - or don’t list any QB schools. Just request & list schools that you want your QB application be sent Regular Decision. </p>

<p>You will lose the opportunity for ED - but the QB Regular decision pool as a QB Finalist gives you an ‘edge’.</p>

<p>If you think you have a really good chance of becomming a QB FINALIST with a MATCH - (ie. great Stats, low income w/0 family EFC, outstanding EC’s, personal attributes, and hardships) you have the decision to either:</p>

<p>A) ‘Rank 8 or less QB schools’ and get the ‘edge’ of ED w/an early acceptance and a definate ‘FULL RIDE’ (You will be all finished by Dec. 1 - Hooray!)</p>

<p>VS.</p>

<p>B) NOT to ‘Rank any QB Schools’ and be put into a Regular Decision pool w/regular aceptance date, and a great $$ offer as a QB FINALIST- (though maybe not a full ride $$)?? (You will get to make your final school choice by May 15 with everyone else!) </p>

<p>I hope the above makes the process a little easier for you to understand.</p>

<p>Most of us have not had the chance to visit all of our ‘choice’ schools…maybe not even any???
There is so much info. out there via video and other’s experiences, you should be able to make a pretty good evaluation of your ‘fit’. Hey-all of the QB schools are top schools, I don’t think there’s a bad choice!</p>

<p>Go for it - with the rest of us…</p>

<p>I think there are people here worried about not becoming a finalist, so this is another one:</p>

<p>Scenario 4:
Student applies to QB and is not picked as a finalist.
Student waits until RD round, when QB forwards his application to schools (and pays fees where applicable).
Student receives admission to Scripps, Bowdoin, and Princeton. None are binding, as this isn’t ED.</p>

<p>The benefit of not becoming a finalist and still applying to QB is being able to use the QB application, which has more essays.</p>

<p>I would still check off on the My Locker page all the partner schools to which you want to apply RD, even if they require you to do the Common App and their supplement, or a school-specific application. </p>

<p>The following applies to schools which won’t accept <em>only</em> the QB app:
In previous years, schools such as Yale have said they use the QB app for additional information. I can’t remember the exact wording, but think it was “additional information.” I never heard one of these schools explicitly spell how just how they used the QB app. Do go ahead and check these schools off on the “My Locker” page during the Dec. 1 through Dec. 15th timeframe. Just make sure you’ve done everything else required by the school, which is explained on the Regular Decision Table: [QuestBridge</a> National College Match - Regular Decision Table](<a href=“http://questbridge.org/students/post_match.html]QuestBridge”>http://questbridge.org/students/post_match.html)</p>

<p>It is really worth spending lots of time reading the website to make sure you understand the program.</p>

<p>2blue, that cleared things up a bit. </p>

<p>Also, is it common for those with only 1 subject test and an SAT in the 2100 range to be accepted as a finalist? Or do you need 3 subject tests and a higher SAT to be even considered for finalist status…?</p>

<p>Can I create a new account or would I have to sue the same account that I used for earlier programs? I want to start over, and my exisisting account is all messed up and shizz.</p>

<p>@powerbomb: Wait…2100 range? That is well above the average. I don’t think any of us know each and every applicant, but about 50% become finalists. The partner schools don’t even all require 3 subject tests, so I wouldn’t worry about that for becoming a finalist.
@beatfreaks: Old accounts are renewed every year. I don’t know if you can make a new one, as you can’t do that with the Common App.</p>

<p>^^ No one can ‘chance’ you for Questbridge - It is a combination of many things. The more positive stuff you can show , the better… in the past there have been QB Scholars without top top Stats…it doen’t hurt to try unless you are too lazy to do the extra work! Then you don’t deserve the extra $$ !!! Ha, ha.</p>

<p>Who is on this thread was QB College Prep ??</p>

<p>I looked at the Summer '09 QB College Prep. thread and I see a lot of names that are not active (yet??) on this thread…</p>

<p>Busy writing essays???..</p>

<p>So after Sept. 30 the angst posts will begin?</p>

<p>@GetToCollege: Exactly, and that is probably what is so great about it; they don’t recognize you on superficial numbers, but more of you as a person and how well you’ll fit with the program. So, yes, you might become anxious, but there isn’t any use in “chancing”.
Do you know anyone who participated in College Prep?</p>

<p>As you explore the website, you will find the listing of the required standardized tests for each college here: [QuestBridge</a> College Match Program - Required Standardized Tests](<a href=“http://questbridge.org/students/required_tests.html]QuestBridge”>http://questbridge.org/students/required_tests.html)
Note that each school sets their own standardized test requirements.</p>

<p>So far as finalists go, here is the data for the 2008 finalists. This is for all finalists, not just the College Match recipients: <a href=“http://questbridge.org/cmp/finalist_profiles/2008_finalists.pdf[/url]”>http://questbridge.org/cmp/finalist_profiles/2008_finalists.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
Note the average SATs:
Average old SAT (CR & M): 1310
Average new SAT (CR, M &W): 1930</p>

<p>Editing to add, I strongly agree with the comments about there being more to becoming a QB finalist than just test scores. It is an extremely holistic process.</p>

<p>No, I understand that my 2100 is not a bad score, and I have other things to show also, but if I don’t have 3 subject tests if I am planning on “ranking” Yale (which I think requires 3) then will it be “significantly challenging” or when they say “significantly challenging” does that refer to those who don’t have a single test score??</p>

<p>If you check the link I just gave you, you will read what the testing requirements for Yale are. I recommend you do so, as your assumption is wrong.</p>

<p>What are you referring to when you say “significantly challenging”?</p>