<p>Mainly wondering about Columbia and Cornell, but this really applies to all of them. </p>
<p>I'm sure all Ivy's don't require A++++ students with 2350's on their SATs, and a billion EC's. </p>
<p>But where's the general cut-off?
Can a student with a 3.7 GPA even hope to get into one?
If your SAT's are under 2000 are you doomed?
If you haven't taken any of the offered AP courses are your school, are you s*** outta luck?</p>
<p>What are the usual ranges for acceptance? </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>The ivies get closer in requirements each year. While harvard takes 7%, Columbia takes 9% and their pools are equally strong.</p>
<p>It would be unusual to get into any ivy with under 2100 unless you have a genuine hook. As for a 3.7, it would depend on where that puts you at your school. You could be valedictorian or not even top 10%. ivies mostly take kids with very high ranks. Taking your school’s hardest classes is a must.</p>
<p>These 8 schools have become ridiculously difficult to get into because of their prestige and good financial aid. Unfortunately, they are mostly looking for A plus students with 2350s for those without a hook.</p>
<p>I understand.</p>
<p>I was just wondering as a general rule of thumb. There are some schools that even their “lower” classes are still extremely high level. (My school included) For example, I’m taking Honors Physics this year and I was straight up told “If you take this class, it will be almost exactly like what you’ll have in college for pre-med requirements, so you might as well stay in this level.” That was my underlying motives for asking the question. If you’re in an extremely high level school and by your school standards you’re a “very good student”, maybe not an exceptional one. But as compared to the general application pool, you have very competitive qualifications. I’m sorry, I guess I should have probably started with that question, haha. My mistake, I suppose.</p>
<p>If you’re a top student at a competitive school, it doesn’t matter what your GPA is, but ivies will expect high scores. At the most competitive US high schools the average SAT score is close to 2100. That’s average and most of the average students, even at Andover and Harvard-Westlake don’t get into ivies.</p>
<p>Much is expected of those with the privilege of attending top high schools.</p>