Need some advices for my condition

<p>before i start my story, i am a future international undergraduate student. So my english is not perfect (just...you should know i think..)</p>

<p>hi, my name is scott and i live in GA. im planning to go to college this year's fall semester.
and i have some problems for my plan, so i really really really need your advice.
Also want to join rotc really bad because i want to be an officer in military which is my dream of my life.
so the thing is,
i studied sat test about 3 months, and i took my last sat test in January (because the deadline of admission for fall semester is march 1)
i only took 2 tests total and the score was 410 on reading 530 on math and 380 on writing for first test score
and today i find out my second test score is available so i checked it, and it was...it was horrible.
my parents want me to go to college in this year, which means i have no time for another sat test.
right now, i am the only one who knows the newest score for test.
im trying to figure it out whether i can get accepted from colleges in GA or not.
yes i know i can use the internet to find out the answers, but i want to get some advices from the people who are already in colleges.</p>

<p>so my question is, </p>

<p>which colleges can i go?
1. is my life ruined beacause of sat score?
2. if i apply for colleges i want, is there any chances for me to get accepted?
3. can you give me an advice for my condition?</p>

<p>and here is the colleges i want to apply (for your information)</p>

<p>georgia state university
kennesaw university
georgia gwinnett college
university of north georgia - gainesville campus
university of north georgia - dahlonega campus</p>

<p>thank you for listening my story
really hope for your advice.
Thanks!</p>

<p>I’m afraid that I only see Georgia Gwinnett as a match. The others are mid to high reaches. Good luck to you.</p>

<p>These colleges don’t require your SAT scores. Just don’t send them.
However, they will require a TOEFL score, so you should study and take that test ASAP - unless you’re graduating from an American high school (and even in that case it can be a good idea to present a TOEFL score.)</p>

<p>What type of visa do you have?</p>

<p>I assume you’re full pay, right? So most of these colleges will likely admit you because you’ll bring in OOS money (if you need an F1/J1 you’re automatically considered OOS, unless there are special circumstances in GA, which you should investigate).</p>

<p>How much can your parents afford?</p>

<p>You can’t join ROTC as an international.</p>

<p>Furthermore, you shouldn’t apply to University of North Georgia, since it’s primarily a military college. It’s not a regular college, although there are regular college classes. You would thus be shut out of most activities since almost all students are cadets or ROTC members.</p>

<p>Do your colleges have to be Georgia Publics? (GA= required? public= required?)
What is your current GPA?
With more details, I can suggest a couple more possibilities for you.</p>

<p>I don’t know the answer to this question, so I will pose it to the CC community. CC posters are focused on test scores, but scores need to be interpreted in context. I have no doubt that the OP is more capable than his SAT scores reflect. From his command of English on his post, I suspect that the reason for his low scores is language more than achievement.
Because of this, I am concerned about his achievement in college once he gets there, because any college that admits him will have general ed requirements. I am concerned that a college might be willing to admit him, not knowing his scores- if he doesn’t send them, but that doesn’t help with the language issue. I’m not familiar with all the colleges listed, but I am familiar with the general education English writing requirements at college, and the other general ed classes that require reading and writing, and they require better proficiency in English than the OP has demonstrated.
I don’t think it serves the OP to get into college, struggle, underachieve and possibly risk not passing his classes. If he is a bright student, as I suspect, he is more capable than that. Although his parents would like him to start college, surely they would also want him to succeed there.
My suggestion- if this is possible and I do not know what the options are- is for him to do some sort of gap/English intensive year, repeat the SAT after completion and then apply. I think his chances of acceptance- and success at college- would be much improved.
I am curious to know what options are out there.</p>

<p>@Pennylane: that’s why OP needs to send his/her TOEFL score (rather than SAT score) and why these colleges don’t require SAT scores from international students. Depending on TOEFL score, s/he should have access to ESL remedial instruction or ESL support alongside his/her classes.</p>

<p>^ Thanks, I was not aware that the TOEFL would enable students to get ESL support. That will help. Glad to learn something new. </p>

<p>^ Of course there are colleges that don’t offer it and I don’t know whether these specific colleges do… but most colleges that admit students with TOEFL scores in the 61-83 range offer ESL support. :slight_smile: Otherwise these students would not understand the material and flunk out, depriving the college from cash and pushing their graduation rates down, whereas simple support can make the difference the first or second semester.</p>

<p>@MYOS1634 thanks for the info!
first, my status is international right now, but my father has citizenship of us
which makes me to get permanant residency (i think i will get it before october)
my parents gonna pay full tuition for me
and also, it doesnt have to be GA nor Public
i dont have my GPA yet, because of weather condition in GA, my document from NACES delayed.
and i’d like to get more infos and possibilities if you insist :slight_smile:
again, thanks for the info and reply me!</p>

<p>@MYOS1634 oh and also, the colleges told me they would collect either TOEFL or SAT/ACT
should i go for TOEFL?</p>

<p>@PennyLane2011 thanks for the support :slight_smile:
based on your comment, should i practice more and take the test again?
but the thing is, im already year behind than my friends, thats why my parents are pushing me</p>

<p>Yes, go for the TOEFL. And prepare before you take it, some parts are really tricky. However, the grading grid isn’t the same as for native speakers. If you’re really good at math, you could always add a SAT Subject test in Math (math 2 if you’ve completed algebra2, because in math1 the grading curve is insane).
Are you a senior applying this year? Are you currently in an American high school?
If you are a permanent resident and your father is a citizen who pays taxes in a state (GA, I assume), then you’d pay instate tuition. However you wouldn’t be allowed to be a cadet or enrolled in ROTC until after you’re a permanent resident. So if you’re a junior, become a permanent resident your senior year, and apply, it’ll be fine. But if you’re a senior applying now, you won’t be able to be in ROTC. Ask a ROTC representative whether it’s possible to start ROTC as a sophomore, after freshman year non ROTC (or even if it’s possible to start Spring semester of your freshman year, after a Fall semester without ROTC).
I think it’s not a good idea to attend North GA in these conditions though since it’s a bit more stringent than “regular” ROTC. I think your best chances at ROTC are on a non-military campus.</p>

<p>I am not familiar with the community colleges in GA, but it seems that many of them are oriented to job training more than transfer to 4 year colleges. The only one I can find with a college transfer program is Georgia Perimeter, but it looks like a possible option and it has several campuses- maybe one near your home. There seems to be support for international students. I hope other posters with more experience with these programs will add their advice here, but I wonder if attending a Georgia Perimeter college, and then a transfer to a four year program is a good option, since it offers programs that prepare international students for college.</p>

<p><a href=“http://isaa.gpc.edu/”>http://isaa.gpc.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>They have college transfer programs and will assign students an advisor to assist them with choosing courses that will transfer.</p>

<p>According to their catalog, they offer these English classes:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.gpc.edu/catalog/sites/www.gpc.edu.catalog/files/files/GPC-Catalog-2012-2014.pdf”>http://www.gpc.edu/catalog/sites/www.gpc.edu.catalog/files/files/GPC-Catalog-2012-2014.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>ENGL 0099 - Pre-college Composition (4)
Prerequisites: Placement by the University System Placement Examination
Pre-college Composition is a course in essay writing with particular attention given to generating
ideas, developing paragraphs, organizing ideas, and using transitional devices. Grammar,
punctuation, usage, and spelling are emphasized. </p>

<p>ESL Note: Students whose native language is not English should see an ESL advisor</p>

<p>ENGL 1101E - English Composition I (ESL) (3)
Prerequisites: Exit or exemption from Learning Support English and reading or all ESL
requirements
This course focuses on skills required for effective writing in a variety of contexts, with
emphasis on exposition, analysis, and argumentation, and also including introductory use of a GPC 2012-2014 Catalog 207 </p>

<p>variety of research skills. Some sections of this course are taught with computer assistance in
classrooms equipped with personal computers.</p>

<p>Yes go for the TOEFL. Your SAT scores would make it difficult to get accepted into those colleges.
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<p>Georgia Perimeter is a good choice if you wish to transfer (perhaps one of the few good choices at CC level), it does provide ESL support AND has a full-time ESL program if need be, and it has articulation agreements with UGA, GATech, etc.</p>